LOL LOL LOL so funny! _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:56 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Pitch Bend Commands Hi Tim, I've never used pitch bend on a track, I'd guessed there would be a lot of controller messages which is why I emailed Annabelle, to tell her to just use her pitch bend wheel. I knew there'd be a lot of controller messages, I didn't know it was a double-width MIDI message. Wow it would take forever to put the info in one by one into the event view. It would drive you around the Pitch Bend? Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Burgess <mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Pitch Bend Commands You might not enjoy that experience as the pitch wheel is a double-width MIDI message. Normal MIDI CC messages have 2 to the power 7 possible values (0-127), but the wheel messages has 2 tot he power 14, so uyou'll see an awful lot of messages if you've done anything but a very small bend. The reason for this behaviour is so that your bends can be executed smoothly, so 128 possible values was too granular. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at <http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: 21 October 2010 17:38 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Pitch Bend Commands Hi Annabelle, Do you have a pitch wheel on the keyboard you are using? If so, try pressing record on Sonar then, just holding down say C5 and bending the note. Now go into event edit> As you arrow down the numbers on the controllers may give you an idea of how they form the bend. I've never done this myself as I rarely use pitch bend, however, I do step record and alter notes and controllers in the event menu quite a bit. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Pitch Bend Commands I would put in the pitch bend commands manually, however, I don't know if there's a practical way to quantize just the pitch bend commands, for example, by 16th notes, or 32nd notes. Especially since I can't work in the piano roll view, without making a mess of the notes. I can only work easily in the Event List. _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:45 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Pitch Bend Commands Hi Annabelle, I would record pitch bend whilst playing, the controller commands will really start to get out of hand if you try to do it manually. Garritan Jazz is my only exception when using lots of controllers, I use a fair few to switch on and off doits, kisses, falls and occasional breathy notes on the trumpet. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:19 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Pitch Bend Commands Hi, it's Annabelle. I was just now reading the part of the Sibelius Manual that tells about Pitch Bend commands, and I'm a little confused on one part. After I would enter the initial range, ~C100,0, ~C101,0, ~C6,2, ~C100,127, and ~C101,127, what would I enter for the ~B0 command for a quarter tone, a halfstep, and a whole step? Would it still be things like ~B0,32, ~B0,40, ~B0,64, ~B0,80, ~B0,96, and ~B0,127? I'm confused! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3209 - Release Date: 10/20/10 18:34:00 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5552 (20101021) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3209 - Release Date: 10/20/10 18:34:00 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5552 (20101021) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this outgoing message. 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