[ddots-l] Re: Questions about reading sheet music.

  • From: "Ricky Prevatte" <rickyprevatte@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:03:19 -0400

I understand but I will try that any. It will be more than I had. It might spark more of an interest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Questions about reading sheet music.


Hi, Ricky,

You can import a MIDI file into Lime with some preparation.  However, MIDI
files are not notation-based files but performance-based files.
Accordingly, whatever tries to render them as notation-based files has to
make some educated guesses about things like whether a particular note is a
C-Sharp or a D-Flat.  Yes, they sound the same but can be written in two
different ways that really do make a difference to people who read music.

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:06 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Questions about reading sheet music.

Well Bill is it possible to examine a midi file with some of this?
Will it read each track as if we were playing a midi key board? I will try it because I am excited and want to learn a little more music notation.-----

Original Message ----- From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Questions about reading sheet music.


Hi, Jim,

Summary
Below I will give an overview of things you can do with music notation in
three sections:

1. Scan, Play Back and Save to MIDI File (SharpEye)
For those interested in learning a piece by listening or who want to
import MIDI performance into SONAR, etc.

2.  Scan, Play Back and Pass Results to Lime Notation Editor (Lime Aloud)
For those who learn by listening and analyzing music notation and
for those who wish to independently enter, revise and print their
compositions for sighted musicians to read.

3.  Scan, Play Back, Pass Results to Lime Notation Editor and Transcribe
to
Braille Music (GOODFEEL)
For those who may want to accomplish all described under items 1 and
2 above who also learn new material by studying the braille while
listening
and who wish to create hardcopy braille music scores.

Overview

1. Scan, Play Back and Save to MIDI File

You can definitely scan sheet music with SharpEye and play the results
back.
Or you can even use something like the Peernet driver to convert music
stored in a PDF document to a tiff image file which SharpEye can open and
scan.   Sooner or later, you will need a sighted assistant to correct
scanning errors but some things actually do scan perfectly.

Once you're happy with the playback, File | MIDI | Save and Open Temp File
should automatically open the file in SONAR if you have set your Windows
file associations to open MIDI files in SONAR.  Or just save the MIDI
file,
close SharpEye, run SONAR and open your MIDI file.

You might think about trying SharpEye free for 30 days.  If you already
have
one of our Dancing Dots Products and Demo CD's, you can install the 30-day
demo by installing GOODFEEL and related products.  That is, if you still
have the CD you used to install CakeTalking or Sibelius Speaking, you
already have what you need to install a demo of SharpEye, Lime and/or
GOODFEEL.  If you do not have our CD, go to
http://www.dancingdots.com/main/demodl.htm to request a demo.

See http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/sharpeye.htm for more information
and
to order SharpEye.

2.  Scan, Play Back and Pass Results to Lime Notation Editor

If your interest is to study the actual notation of the piece, consider
acquiring Lime Aloud.  Lime Aloud is included with purchase of GOODFEEL
but
also sold as a separate product which gives you authorization for
SharpEye,
Lime and the Lime Aloud JAWS-based scripts.  The result is that you can
scan
music notation with SharpEye, clean it up with help from a sighted
assistant
sooner or later, and then pass the results to Lime, a music notation
editor
comparable to Sibelius or Finale. After you're satisfied with playback in
SharpEye: File | NIFF  | Save and Open Temp File.  Lime opens
automatically.


Now, provided you have JAWS for Windows, you can navigate through the
score
note by note, all notes in current staff or all notes in all staves.  As
you
arrow through the piece, Lime sounds the note or chords and JAWS speaks a
description of the highlighted note or rest along with any associated
annotations.  Of course, you can play back all parts or selected parts in
tempo or at a practice tempo.

Scanning sheet music is not the only way to get notation into Lime.  You
can
play notes in from the PC keyboard or from a MIDI keyboard controller.
You
can use Lime to create new pieces which you can print on a standard
printer
for sighted musicians to read.  Lime can also import MusicXML files
exported
by Finale, Sibelius and a good number of other notation programs.

You will find a brief audio presentation  demonstrating Lime Aloud at:
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/limealoud.htm

See the heading labeled:
Audio Presentation of Lime Aloud Available for Download

3.  Scan, Play Back, Pass Results to Lime Notation Editor and Transcribe
to
Braille Music

You can use GOODFEEL and related products to accomplish all of the above
with the additional ability to transcribe the notation in Lime into the
equivalent music braille.  Having a braille display also allows you to
scroll through the braille and print music in sync.  The print music
appears
in staff notation on the PC display while the braille music appears on
your
braille display.

For more information on GOODFEEL:
http://www.dancingdots.com/main/goodfeel.htm

Further questions welcome, on or off-list.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Tim Burgess
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:46 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Questions about reading sheet music.

Gord's absolutely right, but I've got to say that it's still pretty
impressive.


Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm

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