Yes, you can get at the program browser which is a tree view, and many of the presets are good. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Rapture Hi Gord and others. I completely understand what you're saying and I don't mind using the Jaws curser. Is Dimension Pro accessible enough to get some use out of its presets? I use soft synthes exclusively with Sonar at the moment and I'm thinking of buying Dimension Pro to get more patches. Bob.