[ddots-l] Re: Recording sound effects in the field?

  • From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:00:50 -0700

Hello,
What is "a good stereo mic setup" that you can use with a recorder with a line-in? I didn't know you could do stereo through a small eighth inch set-up. Do the olympus recorders have 2 eighth inch jacks?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

On 4/15/2014 9:00 AM, D!J!X! wrote:
Nowadays, stereo sounds and even 5.1 are a common thing. I'd say the budget
way to do it is use a recorder with good low noise levels, like 1 of the
olympus line, with a good stereo mic setup. If you want to go pro, you'll
unfortunately have to spend more than 500, as allot of sound libraries are
done with multiple mics at multiple locations, multiple pickup patterns etc.
You also want to make sure your card can do high-quality sounds at high
rates, say 24 bits at at least 48k, though 88 and 192 are also becoming the
standards for these kinds of stuff. If you are just recording to use in a
personal project, then you should be fine with what you can get, as long as
you are happy with the results. But if you are serious about it, then you'll
need to invest, just like anything else.

HTH, D!J!X!

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Subject: [ddots-l] Recording sound effects in the field?

Hello,
I am really starting to get into recording sound effects and would like to
get some people's thoughts:
I have several devices and I am wondering what the best way of putting them
together would be. Also, if anyone has any ideas on what equipment I should
get, please let me know:

recorders:
Braille Sense (not the typical recorder, but with a line-in it sounds
fantastic!)
Braille Plus (not typical, but has some pretty good built-in speakers as
well as a line-in feature) I also have a Sony recorder that has a really bad
built-in mic, but also has a line-in and is probably as good as the other
devices A windows 7 laptop (has a loud fan, so I would rather not use it,
unless I can make sure the computer is not in the room I'm recording in) I
also have an IPhone (Has a really good built-in mic for vocals, but the mic
has a compressor that is annoying)

Mics:
I have the onboard mics for each of the above devices and I also have:
Shure PG 42 USB mic
Shure SM 47 (typical)
Shure SM 58 (typical)
typical means that they are connected through an xlr cable.

I am not 100% sure if this is a good idea, but I plugged the USB of the PG
42 into the Braille sense and strung an eighth inch to eighth inch cable
from the mixer plug (the pg42 has its own sound-card and that has a
headphone jack) to the line-in of the Braille sense. That seemed to come out
really great, although it was not stereo. I don't know if the Braille sense
is the right power for the PG42, but I didn't have any explosions when I
tried it...

I am trying to figure out if I should invest in an eighth inch mic, or if I
can possibly use what I have. I don't currently have a sound card, but I was
either thinking:
1. the Roland Duo-Capture
or
2. Roland Quad-Capture

the duo has batteries that are strong enough to provide mics like the
SM47 with power, so I could then either take my computer along with me to
the sound recording place, or do the USB hook-up that I did with the PG 42
on the Braille Sense.

The Quad would stay home and I would just use it for instrumental
recordings, sound effects that are able to be recorded in the studio and if
I did get a new computer, I could take it to a few places where I need to
grab sounds. It would not stay in my backpack.

I am mostly wanting to do sound effects, but I am a musician, so I do
currently use the PG42 or IPhone to record me for competitions and what not.
If I did get good at editing, I may explore recording other music, but that
doesn't seem too likely at the moment.
I really would like to get stereo sound, but if the cost for stereo is
prohibitive (over $500), I will probably just use Haas Effect in all my mono
recordings.
I would eventually like to get a couple omni directional mics and strap them
together with a foam disk in between them, so it sounds like human ears. But
that is kind of expensive and I'm not 100% sure how I would record something
like that.
For sound effects, portability and quick set-up time is very important.
I'm not sure carrying around a sound card would be the best idea, but I
would like to know what other people think.
thank you,

--
Brandon Keith Biggs

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