I know what you mean. i sometimes think I have forgotten, more than I remember, LOL! Here's some rough theory. As you know jack, A440 is the A above middle C. Half that and you have 220. Half that again, and you have 110. Half that again and you get 60. Half that again and your at the bottom of the piano. So if you know about harmonics then, you can work out which areas of a particular instrument may need a bit of EQ. If like my good self and georgen you have perfect pitch then, you can really easily dive into an EQ without thinking about it too much as you can hear in your head, which frequencies are likely to be a problem then simply, dial them into the EQ. If not then, you can read up on harmonics from your old piano tuning books if you have them and revise your knowledge. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Conti Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:52 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Amazing virtaul piano boy that is good to know but now i have to remember back in the day, can't remember what i had tghe supper last night <grin> At 04:34 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Hay Jack. Talking of Yamaha's, I will always remember the first time I tuned a Yamaha grand. I hadn't expected it to be quite that bright and ended up with a headache. btW, if you know how to tune a piano and you know the frequencies of a particular instrument then, you can apply all of that stuff you learned about harmonics when using EQ in Sonar. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ <mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Conti Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:23 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Amazing virtaul piano thats one of the great things about ivory not a note out of tume. and i have been through it looking. guess if i hadn't tuned for 35 years i would care but i always notice, even on my yamaha. At 03:11 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote: O yeh. Still smiling here! Still don't like the 6th D, being particularly out of tune when compared to the rest of the instrument. When tuning pianos at college, I would have been made to tune that note again and rightly so. To me, that makes the whole thing sound inconsistent. Not personally keen on the phasing of the sound. That's what I love about sound. One mans greatest piano ever is another mans out of tune out of phase sounding piano, smile. Of course, this is coming from someone who's a piano tuner so, I am never wild about phasing on pianos anyway. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:31 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano Hi Phil, I too notice tuning issues and the phasing sound when notes were held. This maybe deliberate as the phasing didn't sound digital, plus, they seem to have chosen a piece of music that had a lot of held chords almost pointing out the phasing quality. The imperfections made it sound like a real piano. I also slightly detune instruments in my horn section to create a more believable horn section sound. The problem with some of these other pianos, is they sometimes sound too pure, all real pianos have their faults whether it be tuning issues or just that the notes resonate too long... I could hear the body of this piano like someone was sitting at it, not triggering it from a mother keyboard. One other thing I liked about this piano when taking a quick look at spec, it isn't 70GB like the Quantum Leap Piano, I believe this virtual piano is only 6GB. That's my personal take on it, the question is, is Phil still smiling ha ha. Seriously Phil, I must thank you for your work with Superior, had a storming gig last Week and the dance floor had people on it from the second song of the night. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:18 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano Wasn't epersonally that impressed with this myself. It didn't entirely sound in tune. I could hear a slight phasing on the notes and as for the 6th D, it's frankly, out of tune. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:05 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano Wow Kevin, If I hadn't been told that it was a Virtual piano, I would have just excepted that it was a quality recorded piano. There's some great products that work with Kontakt, such ashame these companies don't have these products using Dimension Pro. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Gibbs <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Amazing virtaul piano No idea whetehr this is accessible. It does sound amazing. Kevin, <http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html> http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5012 (20100409) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5013 (20100409) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com