Hi, Dave, Sorry to hear about all of this difficulty with installing! First thing is to get SONAR 5 itself properly installed. See http://www.dancingdots.com/ct/5.1/ for a link to a document entitled: Instructions for installing SONAR. This document may give you some helpful hints. Contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with a copy to me using my info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx address with further questions. Use the link above to download CakeTalking 5.1 which is the latest shipping release of CT. As you know, you must have Windows XP Home or Pro and JAWS 6.2 or later installed. Bill -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Wilkinson Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:02 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Sonar 5 Installation Question I'm trying to get Sonar 5 and CakeTalking 5 on my computer. My Sonar 5 is an upgrade. I was having trouble getting it to install, so I took all occurrences of Sonar off of my computer. When I tried to re-install Sonar 5, the install crashed. I tried to install Sonar 4 first in case it needed to be present for the Sonar 5 upgrade, but whenever Sonar 4 tries to associate plug-ins, it crashes, too. What am I doing wrong here? I feel like I'm taking GIANT steps backwards! Any help would be appreciated. Dave ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq