[ddots-l] Re: Think I Can Get EZ Drummer 2 Going With HotSpotClicker

  • From: Jack Conti <Jackconti@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:54:34 -0500

right Phil i startd with ez-drummer bought all the superior libraries, and never went back to ezx. I like superior and parts of addictave. Peace.

At 01:15 PM 3/5/2015, you wrote:
Ok. Having explored this a bit further I have some further bad news. Pad locations really are going to cause us problems with getting this to work. Think I will get the mixer going for the kits that ship with EZ Drummer 2 and get the pad access going for those as best I can. Am able to use EZX's together however, don't think there's much point coding up pads for those as they somewhat vary. If there were a classic view or, similar in EZ Drummer then, we could do this. There isn't however, if you don't mind exploring with the Jaws cursor and clicking on a drum name to load then, it's doable for certain EZX's and not for others. The usual case applies. Meaning that if you have an EZX that has a large number of pads such as the Electronic set or, Latin Percussion then, this won't work as pads are all over the place.

As for me, I shall get this done and go back to Superior Drummer 2 as it's a lot less time consuming to use and way more accessible.



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 05 March 2015 14:13
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Think I Can Get EZ Drummer 2 Going With HotSpotClicker

Hi all!

Looks like I will be able to make EZ Drummer 2 somewhat accessible. First, the bad news.

There will be some limitations and unfortunately at this time there is no way around these. For example, when loading in a drum, you first left click a pad in order to open the menu. However, this is a non standard type of Windows menu E.G. although you have opened the menu in question, you would then need to arrow down to a location on screen for the drum that you want to load. The good news is that when you click on the drum that you want to load, it sounds so you no that you have for example chosen a snare. Can get around the issue of drums at specific locations on screen however, the next one is unavoidable.

Because the pad locations change very slightly on screen between EZX's, sometimes a right click will work where a left click wont. There is no way around this because the colour use on the arrow over the pad is not uniform from drum set to drum set so we can't do a colour search to work around that particular issue and there is no classic view in EZ Drummer 2.

Now for the good news. Unlike the original EZ Drummer, you can use different EZX's in EZ Drummer 2. Looks like we will also be able to use drums from different EZX's together in EZ Drummer 2 as well. E.G. a snare from 1 EZX, kick from another and cymbals from another etc.

Note: would still personally go for Superior Drummer 2 as it's a bit less fiddly to use than EZ Drummer 2 due to Superior Drummer's use of standard menus and the classic view which when used as it is with the HSC sets, places all of the drum pads at set locations on screen.

Also, with the EZ Drummer 2 modern set, all of the toms are unfortunately sent out on a single stereo pare so you can't EQ and compress them separately in your DAW.

The EZ Drummer 2 Vintage set isn't much better either as you can not send out toms separately either. This seems to be a limitation with EZ Drummer 2's drums specifically. Meaning that if you use EZ Drummer with other EZX's such as Nashville or, the original EZ Drummer pop set that ships with EZ Drummer then, you can indeed get individual Toms out on to separate outputs. I think this is probably intentional as EZ Drummer 2 is more of a song writing tool, E.G. you can choose different sounding mixes with affects already applied and send those to separate outputs in your DAW which do sound good and punchy or, you can choose a basic mix which, just sends out the drums with nothing on them to separate outputs in your DAW. However, you can only get drums out of EZ Drummer 2 into a stereo wav file. Note: we don't have that feature in the sets yet and not sure whether we will be able to get that going.

Where as Superior Drummer 2 is a full on drum suite of products where you can send separate outputs with or, without affects to individual outputs in your DAW or, go a lot further than that and split out mics to close, bleed mono, bullet etc with or, without affects and get all of those out into individual stereo and mono wave files. Then, load those wave files back into your DAW and apply affects in your DAW to the wave files.

However, if you are on a lower budget then, EZ Drummer 2 could be another option worth considering.



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