[ddots-l] Re: Tranzport Audible Scrubbing

  • From: "Chi Kim" <ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:21:30 -0400

I've contacted Frontier Design support, and Brian told me that Sonar audible 
scrub feature through control surface is different from mouse scrub.
If you release the left mouse button, the scrub immediatly stops with a delay, 
but for some reason, scrub with a control surface does not do that.
  Also, if Sonar can scrub faster than the normal playback speed, there should 
be no buffer issue. It'd be perfectly synchronized with the jog dial.
  It'd be awesome if we can audible scrub like other application such as sound 
forge.
  I've already written to a cakewalk support team to implement better scrubbing 
in the future sonar release.
  We all should write to the sonar support. Then Sonar develop team might pay 
atention to it.

  Chi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Studio Montebello 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:58 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tranzport Audible Scrubbing


  I beg to differ with you on Sound Forge scrubbing!
  It's much more precise and much easier  to do than Sonar.

  Jean

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jeff Molzow 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:08 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tranzport Audible Scrubbing


    Hello Chi:

    The scrubbing moves as fast as the Tranzport wheel is turned. This is much 
like disengaging the capstand on an old Teacc reel to reel tape deck and slowly 
or quickly spinning the reels to locate a splice point. The heads remained 
engaged and it sounded pretty weird, but it was very easy to find a splice 
point. 

    The Tranzport works the same way. as you spin the wheel, the mythical head 
is scrubbed across the region slowly or as quickly as you spin ,   so you can 
easily home in on a beat, breath or other very tight splicing point. While 
there is a small gap between when you stop spinning and when the scrub head 
stops, it's real easy to get use to it and you can be incredibly accurate.  You 
can go as fast or as slow as you need to. I just wish the Tranzport worked like 
this in SoundForge.  It would be awesome to do a master with this scrubbing 
technology. 

    If you're interested, there is an excellent demo done by Gordon on the 
Dancing Dots list showing off many of the aspects of the Tranzport. 

    hth
    Jeff



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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Chi Kim
    Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:37 AM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tranzport Audible Scrubbing


      Ah ha, so tranzport also has the delay.
      Doesn't it make it really hard to pinpoint the right spot to punch/edit 
though?
      for example, if you want to find a certain word from a phrase that the 
vocalist sang with one breath.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jeff Molzow 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:46 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Tranzport Audible Scrubbing


      Hello Chi:

      IN answer to your questions, The Tranzport knob is de-tented so you can 
feel small little bumps as you turn it. Although, to my ear, there are no 
abrupt changes in the sound. It is very smooth. 

      Yes, there is a slight delay from when you stop turning the knob when 
scrubbing and when the "Tranzport" stops moving, but it is very easy to get 
used to. 

      HTH
      Jeff     



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      From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Chi Kim
      Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:53 PM
      To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] Tranzport Audible Scrubbing


      I have a couple of questions for tranzport audible scrubbing function.
      1. When you use dial to change values or scrub, for every increament, is 
there a bump you can feel as you turn the dial, or is it just one fluid motion? 
In other words, can you count how much you turned precisely?
      2. Is there little bit of delay between the moment when you stop turning 
the dial and the moment scrubbing actually finishes? In other words, does the 
scrubbing stops immediatly as soon as you stop.
      Thanks,

      Chi

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