Hi, forget the last two posts. I had more problems so reinstalled cake talking and all seems well. Barbie P.S. that's my real name. It gets worse my initials with my maiden name are BAT as in blind as a bat. Some cruel irony since my parents had no idea I was blind when they chose my name. Now I can honestly say that I have sonar.... From: Barbie Elliott Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:33 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] cake talking tab Hi, For some reason some of my columns have disappeared from the cake talking tab. The only way I can get to quantize and freze to name a couple but there are more unfound columns is to go to the all controlls displayed which JAWS always says is no longer useful and prompts me to use the cake talking tab, but many columns are not showing there. Is this a problem? If so what to do?