[ddots-l] Re: cross fade

  • From: "Dan Rugman" <danrugman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:23:41 +0100

Hi guys,

Here's how to do a crossfade.

Lets say you want to fade from audio on track 1 to  audio on track 2.

Set the from and through times to the start and end of the crossfade and then 
select tracks 1 and 2.  Then go to the process menu (alt P) then the audio 
submenu (a) then the crossfade dialogue (c).  It should put you in a combo box 
with "linear crossfade" highlighted.  Just hit enter and your done.

If you want to replace a take without clicks the best way is as follows:

(I'll use Chi's example of replacing bars 3 and 4).

What we do is two very fast crossfades of about 60 clicks at the start of bar 3 
and the end of bar 4.

1. Record the second take on a different track (say track 2 if the first is on 
track 1).

2. Remove the unwanted material from the first take but leave a little audio at 
the beginning of bar 3 and the end of bar 4.  Recommend selecting from 3:01.060 
to 4:04.900 using the shift f9 dialogue.

3. Make sure that there is no audio on track 2 outside the region 3:01.000 to 
5:01.000.

4. Now select from 3:01.000 to 3:01.060 on tracks 1 and 2 and then do the 
crossfade.

5. Repeat step 4 selecting from 4:04.900 to 5:01.000.

If the crossfade is too slow, that's to say, if you can hear some doubling 
going on, then use a different number of clicks instead of 60 for the crossfade.

Hope this is clear.

Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chi Kim 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:20 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: cross fade


  Here's how I do it.
  first, you need to setup some stuff.
  Go to global option and set the nudge to 1 tic.
  Also on editing tab, set the cross fade on overlapping.
  Press shift n and open up snap to grid dialog.
  Set the unit to 1 sample and check the 0 crossing box.

  Now, you need to remember exact beginning and end time of punch  or 
distructive effect.
  Let's say you have a 8 bar song.
  You don't like bar 3 and 4, so you open up another track and record bar 3 and 
4.
  Although you can do auto punch in the same track, but I like to record it on 
another track. It gives me more freedom.
  Anyways, you copy bar 3 and 4 to the original track and overwrite it.
  Then, there should be click between 2 and 3 and between 4 and 5.
  First, you select bar 3 and 4 and do a small nudge to the left. If you check 
selection time at this point, the beginning of the selection should be 1 tic 
moved to the left.
  Try to hear between bar 2 and 3. If there's still a click do another small 
nudge to left by pressing control insert number pad 1. Repeat until it 
disappears.
    Now, select from bar 5 to end and do small nudge to left until the click 
disappear.
    Problem with this though, if you do too many of small nudge, your track 
might sound off time, cause you're getting rid of tiny bits. If you do like 40 
of them, you're getting rid of 40 tics. Oh yeah, also, set your tic time to 960 
tics per quarter note, so you can do finer adjustment.
    Even with 960 tics per quarter, if you get rid of 40 tics, you can hear the 
off sync especially on percussion or drum trakcs.
    Hope it helps.
    If anyone has better way to remove clicks from edit, please share.

    Chi
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: neville 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:47 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] cross fade 


    Hey Ki, I just read your message about the question you had. I'm sorry I 
don't know the answer to your question as I'm still teaching myself how to use 
sonar. I saw that you menssioned something about applying crossfades. I would 
really like to know how to do this.  I know what your talking about when you 
said that you hear clicks in the audio when pasting. I don't have that problem 
when pasting, but I do have that problem when I'm punching  in and when I'm 
applying efects distructivly. Lets say I want to do some pitch corection I hear 
a click at the beginning of my audio selection and also at the end. I got the 
impression that you new how to do a cross fade. Can you tell me how? 

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