Have you tried the ones by sonic implants. Heres the link just in case www.sonicimplants.com/ProductList Just go to drums and have a brows. The one you might want to have a look at is called "session kicks and snaires" for about $18 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:58 PM Subject: [ddots-l] desperately looking for heavy kick SF Hello everbody, I am desperately looking for some heavy fat kick soundfonts. I am recording a reggae tune for a client, and she wants it to sound as if it was live drums. I got myself a two great toms as soundfonts, and my motif es hi hats are not too bad. Now, the kick is only my problem. I need those fat heavy kicks, but everything I could fine, thus far, are those cheap sounding synths one. Can anyone help please? If you also have good congas and snaires, thanks too! roddj12@xxxxxxxxxxx Rod