Hi Ramy, In many languages, only Grade 1 is used. Grade is simply a print character for braille character translation, with a few additions such as number signs. However is some languages, in particular English for example, there are many groups of letters in words which are quite common. For example, coming, going, seeing, steeling, all end with the letters i n g. And so this group of letters becomes one cell of dots 3,4 and 6 in Grade 2 Braille. There are also what are called "Word signs" in Grade 2 for many letters of our alphabet, and so in braille the letter b means but, c means can, d means do. However when you do actually mean a single letter in Grade 2 braille, it is preceded by a letter sign, which is dots 5 and 6 in English. Overall, the idea is to reduce the amount of space taken up is producing pages of braille. I've not done any tests of late wit the new UK rules, but in general terms, Grade 2 English takes up about 15-18% less space that Grade 1. Which in turn converts to 85-82 pages in grade 2, compared to 100 pages of Grade 1. George. ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: 02 June 2006 22:51 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] grade 2 braille hi all: please, can anyone tell me what is the difference between the grade one and grade 2 braille? Cheers: Ramy moustafa, if music be the food of love, play on... Email and msn: flutelover@xxxxxxxx Yahoo ID: twta82 mobile: 0020102221750 skype: roma 30,