Oh no Brian! The rool is that you find out weather software is accessible before upgrading or purchasing. I won't be able to help you since I don't have the upgrade. I hope that someone on the list can help since I know what its like to upgrade or purchase inaccessible software. May the peace of God which passes all understanding guard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus. God bless you! Music soft sacred and soulful Website http://www.nevillepeter.com email neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx phone 407-222-4488 _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:37 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] ivory question Hello all, I just upgraded to ivory 2 and I am using catetalking with sonar 8.5. DOes anyone on this list use ivory 2? It's a little bit different then ivory 1 and I was wondering if someone could walk me through loading presets from within sonar. Thanks, Brian