You might look for CC11 but it's unlikely to have been used. Your other option, and this is clumsy by comparison, is to select all tracks and go into the event list view and press v to open the event manager. Uncheck the notes checkbox which is the first option. This will expose all the other parameter events such as CC7. then delete these one at a time making sure that you don't remove anything except CC7s. Again, this is clumsy and I don't recommend it. However, if you are not having success using the other dialogs, this does work. When you've removed all the CC7s, press v and recheck the notes checkbox. Close the event manager. Close the event view and play back your file. See if your fadeout is gone. K. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grant Zolninger Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:35 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] removing fade out I know that this has been discussed, but I am having trouble removing a fade out on a midi file with sonar. I have used the "select some dialog" to segregate the controller 7 events. Here is what happens... after I choose the controller 7 events and press enter, I am returned to a parameter setting that I am not certain of. The lesson on this subject says that you can select controller 7 events, press enter, then press the mid section delete button. This does nothing to remove a fade out on my project. Yes! all my tracks are selected from beginning to end. Is there another volume control that I might look for? Thanks, grant PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq