Have they really gone? Have you tried using Alt down arrow, in order to open the preset list, when in the preset dialog box of a plug-in? Regards, Phil Muir ----- Original Message ----- From: Cameron To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: [ddots-l] restoring plug in presets in sonar 5 studio Hello all. I need to find a way to restore the effects presets in sonar 5 studio. They've all disappeared, from the Cakewalk effects to the Sonitus effects. Should I run Sonar.exe and just install the plug ins? The 5.2 maintenance patch has been installed already. When I went into the Sonar plug in manager, there is the import option but I can't seem to locate where the preset lists are stored. Thanks, Cameron.