OK, I don't want to start any trouble, but would like to either clarify or get
further clarification on the whole Windows Update issue.
I personally have various machines that are up to date on windows 7, and
neither SONAR or any plug-ins have had any issues with it. For anyone who has
had a windows update issue where it affected SONAR, could you comment on which
specific update did that (KB number where possible)? That way we can se if the
issue was in fact the update, or maybe something particular to your
configuration, or just something else that is wrong on your system.
I've recently built a couple of DAWs specificly for visually impaired
producers, and windos has been updated to the latest patches, and again,
neither SONAR or CT have complained or behaved abnormmaly after any updates.
The issue with 32 bit dimension pro and rapture probably stems from the fact
that if those 2 programs are installed incorrectly (the incorrect order or to
the wrong place), it will never work properly. To make matters worst, cakewalk
have made the update process for dimension and rapture (not the new rapture
pro) a bit convoluted, where if you don't point it to the right folders, you
will not get the update. Many people using dimension (that have approached me
with dimension/rapture problems) are using the outdated version 1.1, which is
not windows 7 compatible (even though it was 64 bit), and same goes for
rapture. I suspect these issues are causing the problems, and not windos
updates.
Now why am I making a big deal about it? For a good reason: the advice of not
updating your machine and just keeping it with the original windows install is
very bad advice. Even if your machine is offline, you shouldn't leave it
without updates. A few years ago this might have been OK and recommendable, but
Microsoft has made a number of improvements to the core of the OS through
updates, and if you are not updating your machine, you are missing out on some
valuable improvements. For those who might be wondering, I work with a vast
range of systems and configurations, and install windows and update it multiple
times a week, and at busy points, multiple times a day on different systems,
and I've seen the various effects (both negative and positive) that updating a
system might have.
A few examples:
Last year various "servicing stack" updates were released, which help modify
the update system and streamline it to run more like windows 8.1 and 10, which
results in more efficient updates and management; now for example windows gets
a single security update per month that has multiple fixes, as oppose to 100
separate small updates.
Among these, There is an update that prevents memory leaks in windows font and
presentation font caches, which virtually every program uses. Another driver
for user mode framework improves windows performance with drivers. And in some
cases helps dpc latency!
If you are running recent hardware such as skylake or broadwell, you will
definitely want windows up to date, as Microsoft made changes to better handel
these platforms and make Windows 7 more compatible and run smoother; but these
were all delivered through updates.
For those who have a high-end performance DAW that runs on the X series
chipset, these service stack updates along with quite a few others are a must,
(especially if you are on x99 with a 6 core chip or above), as again they
enable platform features to properly work under windows 7. If someone isn't
getting these updates or ignores them because they think it all just security
stuff (which allot of it is), then they miss out on important
fixes/enhancements.
Yes there are also a few bad ones that should be avoided, but those are mainly
privacy concerns, for diagnostic tracing and such, and they don't usually
impact the system negatively, unless you are subscribed to the customer
improvement program, but then again, if you were, you wouldn't be concerned
with privacy in the first place lol.
So again, I don't want to contradict anyone or anything, just want to know if
there are specific updates that are causing issues, because I've yet to se it
here, and like I said, I've worked with a vast variety of configurations and
setups, and none have shown issues up till now ;) If it's not an update but a
problem with a particular system, or a case of a bad configuration, perhaps we
can help get things up and running again; I just want us to be careful not to
advise someone to avoid updates and leave the machine in such a primitive state.
Regards, DJX
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Michael Ciarciello
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:20 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [vipaudioaccess] I want to transition to Mac, but I want
to keep windows around.
now that’s absolutely fantastic. I too have protools and am using it also more
and more each day.
I actually have my first client that I’m training in protools, and yes Phil is
absolutely correct in saying that protools is getting better and better with
accessibility because of flo tools, I just didn’t want to say too much because
I wanted others to chime in.
Indeed Logic still has ways to go, but right out of the box it works good for
some one who wants to simply stick to apple products. I have to admit that
getting a whole of tech support from protools is rather a hoop and a bit more
more complicated then getting a hold of some one from apple.
Like said both Daws are very good on the Mac. and there is absolutely no harm
in using both on the Mac if you want.
To answer Kevins question on the event list editor you simply go to the event
list editor with command 7 and navigate to the event scroll window, and once
interacting with it you have access to various fields such as note, velocity,
and aall that kind of stuff.
Once you navigate to the note column, you can simply turn off quick nav, and as
you arrow up and down VoiceOver will announce the note and echo it to you and
sound it out on your soft synth and or keyboard.
Phil its absolutely that you can seamlessly port things over to samplitude, and
protools, because I’ll be using and training that as well and be ready to rock
in a couple of weeks.
To answer another one of Kevin’s questions, at times I do windows updates to my
Windows 7 machine because at my centre where I train clients we are
automatically updated from or it department.
In the last year and notably with my self what happens is that the tool bars
become broken. For instance I non longer get the correct time in a pice of
music, at least not accurately.
In the last year or so several customers who I help are reporting this to me,
and I have to instruct them to run the repair tool to solve the issue.
Now this is not to imply that those who have CT should stop using, its just
this little buggy things that happen.
Infact I will continue to say this and if you are comfortable in using Sonar
with CakeTalking, and want to still continue purchasing Sonar and CT please do
so because its a rock solid kick ass system with extensive tutorials, and
verbose access to Jaws.
Again this does not imply that amplitude is not good, too it is, what I am
trying to say here is that if you are wanting to use a software of your choice,
and are happy with what you use for your needs, then go ahead and use it… The
fact that we now have ground to choose our DAW choice is what matters, and I’m
here to help, and support any one on list who chooses to purchase a DAW of
their choice.
Its why I love competition, and why I’m mastering in my masters degree at
Concordia univercity in Educational Technology. I love music, computers and
technology lol.
Cheers.
On Feb 28, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am probably in a good position to comment as I run a couple of Mac's
with Bootcamp with Mac OS on one side and previously Windows 7 now
Windows 10 on the other. I use Samplitude Pro X3 Suite on Windows 10
along side JSonar and Sonar 8.5.3. I use Pro Tools on the Mac and
that's extremely accessible, way more so than Logic especially with the use
of Flo Tools:
http://flotools.org/
Flo Tools adds single letter navigation to Pro Tools on the Mac and
you can query the status of various buttons such as mute, solo, etc.
MIDI is editable on Pro Tools on the Mac but as yet haven't done that.
Also, they are adding comprehensive third party plug-in access to Pro
Tools using Flo Tools. For instance, they already have great access to
Superior Drummer 2.
I regularly move MIDI and audio data from Pro Tools to Samplitude and
it's absolutely seamless to the point where you can export out a MIDI
file from PT with real time properties which includes a tempo map and
import it into Samplitude. On import, Samplitude will detect that
there is a tempo map embedded in the MIDI file and ask you if you want
to import it. If you choose yes then the MIDI data along with all of
the various markers where the tempo changes occur are automatically
imported. You can also import broadcast wav and all audio files will
line up seamlessly, even if for example the backing vocals don't come in
until much later in the song.
For instance, am just about finished on a mix with a client in
Ireland. The mix has a gradual speed up and without the tempo map in
the MIDI file there is absolutely no way you would be able to work
between both DAWS as I needed that info because the client in Ireland
wanted me to replace the snare drum with something else. So I did in
Samplitude using Superior Drummer 2.
With regard to using Samplitude, you can easily copy, paste affects,
paste/edit audio and MIDI clips, turn volume up or down on audio clips
or as they are referred to in Samplitude, objects. It's all fully
accessible and you are using a screen reader which you are used to
using to access all of this, Jaws. Further more; a lot of the Sonar
plug-ins that you may still wish to use can be accessed in Samplitude
as I have updated the HSC sets for those including Dimension Pro and
Rapture. There is a great group of VI Samplitude users and some video
on YouTube of folks using it. You will find the free Jaws scripts, as
well as fully functional 30 day demos for Samplitude Pro X3 Suite and
Samplitude Pro X3 and links to the mailing list and YouTube page here:
http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/samplitude/samplitude.html
I have to say that as with any new DAW although the learning curve is
steep I absolutely love using it. Also with regard to mixing its like
having gone from 2D to 3D mixing when compared to Sonar. The
difference really is that clear!! Mixes produced in Samplitude sound
a lot more transparent. The sound staging is larger and separation
between instruments to me at least sounds wider in Samplitude.
Put it this way, I was given the Alfa scripts by Steve Spamer for
Samplitude late one Thursday evening. I was so impressed and started
getting a handle on it that I purchased Samplitude Pro X2 Suite on the
Monday. Note: if you do decide to purchase Samplitude Pro X3 Suite or
Samplitude Pro X3 then you should conduct a Google search for:
Samplitude Pro X3 Suite crossgrade.
That will get you a lower price when purchasing the software.
Finally, I doo need to mention that Magix the company who develop
Samplitude are working with a number of us on an on going basis to
make the product more accessible and Steve Spamer continues to develop
the excellent Samplitude scripts and I help by working on the user
documentation.
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