It depends on what you are trying to do. Are you trying to emboss a Braille document just as it is, without the embosser getting into the act at all? When you say Duxbury isn't honoring marriage returns, do you mean that you have the document just the way you want it and Duxbury is messing with it? The way a document shows up on your Braille display isn't always a good indicator of how it will emboss. You can see your codes, but you don't always get a line for line display of your file on the display. In general terms, I find it works best if you let the embosser just be "dumb" and let Duxbury do the work of formatting. If your document is already set up the way you want it in Braille, why not save it as a .brf file, which can be sent to the embosser just as is? Does this make sense? I am guessing that you problem may be that the settings you have in Duxbury don't match the line and page lengths in your document. I'd have to see the document and know what program produced it, though. Maybe someone else has ideas. Susie Susie Stageberg Reader Advisor Iowa Library for the Blind and physically Handicapped (515) 281-1325 stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leslie Kouzes Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:02 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury ignoring carriage returns Hi Susie. Would the soft return, when you hit enter on the PC be considered a carriage return or a line feed? In the document menu, embosser setup, advanced options, there is a setting for end of line indicator and I have it set to carriage return, line feed (PC) Is this setting correct or should I change it? Leslie Kouzes Resource Production/Braille Transcriber Illinois Instructional Materials Center The Chicago Lighthouse 1850 West Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608-1228 (312) 997-3699 ext. 3352 Phone (312) 997-1687 Fax leslie.kouzes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Stageberg Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:50 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Duxbury ignoring carriage returns Just pressing Enter on the PC is a soft return; that's what makes the less than sign in Duxbury when you have the codes revealed. A hard return is when you really do want to go to a new line; the code for that is CTRL-L. The old WordPerfect codes called it HRT. It forces a new line. Susie Stageberg Reader Advisor Iowa Library for the Blind and physically Handicapped (515) 281-1325 stageberg.susan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:44 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxbury ignoring carriage returns Can you tell me the difference between soft and hard returns? For example, if you hit if you hit enter on your PC to go to a new line, is that a hard return? Leslie Kouzes Resource Production/Braille Transcriber Illinois Instructional Materials Center The Chicago Lighthouse 1850 West Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608-1228 (312) 997-3699 ext. 3352 Phone (312) 997-1687 Fax leslie.kouzes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:45 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxbury ignoring carriage returns Hi Leslie, Pound to a bad penny you have a file which has hard returns at the end of each line, as opposed to soft returns. You will see this if you view Codes in the .DXP file, where there will probably be an [l] code at the end of each line. The quick way to resolve this is to highlight each paragraph, and from DBT's document menu, select "Join Lines". George. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Leslie Kouzes Sent: 01 September 2006 14:16 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] duxbury ignoring carriage returns Hello all. I am a Duxbury 10.5 user and am new to the list. I'm trying to print out a document and the carriage returns are being ignored. The document looks fine on my braille display but when I print it out, the carriage returns are being ignored. In other words, there are line breaks in awkward places and all the braille seems to be crammed opnto 1 page. I've also noticed there are about 10 lines left, which shouldn't be the case either. My parameters are 26 lines/page, 41 characters/line. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thank you. Sincerely: Leslie Kouzes * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. 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