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From: Dani Pagador <axs.brl@xxxxxxxxx>
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New Zealand and Australia both have excellent UEB training resources, which I
found through Googling. There are adult training manuals, and the Hitchhiker's
Guide to UEB. All are available as .brf docs.
I've read Braille since I was three or four, and am working toward UEB
certification. I sometimes feel like I'm needing to know too much visual
information, especially having to come at reading from a nonvisual perspective
e.g., square vs. round vs. angled brackets, small capitals vs. regular
capitals, and those danged quotation marks.
If I don't understand something in the NFB manual or the official ICEB Rules
book, I look at Australia and New Zealand's resources to try to help clear
things up. It helps to have multiple references on hand, especially where this
old EBAEer dog is concerned.
HTH,
Dani
On 3/1/17, Riessen, Kathy (SA School for Vision Impaired)
<Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Changing to UEB requires a number of concept shifts, which we did 10
years ago in Australia. There are a number of things you need to
"unlearn", not just a few contractions.
Whichever method of learning you use I would recommend you pay careful
attention to understanding the following:
1. The Stand Alone Rule: This clearly states what we have always
known, but gives clear rules where wordsigns and shortforms may or may not be
used.
However you may find some surprises: eg wordsigns may not be used with
slashes.
2. The rules for Lower Groupsigns and Wordsigns.
3. The use of the Shortform List in determining which longer words may
or may not use a shortform.
As a transcriber, it is important to understand these rules, and
appreciate the reasoning behind them. It is because these rules have
been clearly defined that DBT is able to have a product which has a
very high rate of accuracy.
Kathy
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Accessible Format Production South Australian School for
Vision Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email: Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of jyandt.martin@xxxxxxxxxxx <jyandt.martin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:37
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Jill: I had previously downloaded the lessons from NFB, and have been
in the process of converting it in DBT. And I have found that, so far,
the lessons from NFB are pretty much the same as the ones I had
studied to get my transcribing certification; but it has the UEB
changes in it. So, I will combine that with the CNIB book I received
from NFB as well. Hope this works. I am just trying to wrap my head
around the changes. I guess that happens with us older folks lol.
Jerry
From: Jillian Queen (Redacted sender "jhqbraille" for DMARC)
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:26 PM
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Hello Paul:
The UEBonline is a interactive program. You study a chapter and
six-key enter the braille lesson exercises and type the braille reading
exercise.
You can't move on until it is correct, which is both wonderful and
frustrating. (smile) There are differences in the Australian online
course from an American standpoint. Mostly unexpected phrases and
spelling. I did notice if you go too fast and make a mistake, the
program can't compensate when you go back. So, sometimes it will not
recognize that you've corrected your error. Best to either do the
whole paragraph again or save the program and go back in.
The Wisconsin Center for the Blind UEB course is a video series. There
are worksheets, but it's quite self-directed. However, that being
said, WCBVI's always been receptive to emailed inquiries.
I did notice a few other programs around, but these two (above), the
CNIB course, and the NLS programs are, in my humble opinion, the best.
The CNIB full program is self-directed in the same way as NLS, but I
think it is more rigorous. There also is a fee to take the course.
CNIB also has some unexpected phrases and spelling. I did notice that
there were some changes during the year that were not updated in the
CNIB program, but were updated in the NLS program.
I particularly enjoyed the UEBonline. Wish there were an American
version for literary and Nemeth. That would be awesome!
There's my scoop. Anyone else find some? Jill
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To: duxuser <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2017 4:38 am
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Top of the evening to you Jillian:
What distinguishes the first from the second online tutorial you mentioned?
If you were to choose one, which of the two would you recommend?
Who gives approval to all these growing online UEB tutorials?
Cheers,
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:02 PM
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
UEBonline.org Awesome program!
Also, I am a huge fan of the Wisconsin Center for the Blind UEB course
for vision professionals. Jill
http://www.wcbvi.k12.wi.us/outreach/professional-development/unified-e
nglish-braille-vision-professionals
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gergen <dangergen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: duxuser <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2017 5:56 pm
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Many transcribers I deal with have taken the UEBOnline (Australian) course.
http://uebonline.org/
UEBOnline | UEB Braille Training for sighted
learners<http://uebonline.org/> uebonline.org Introducing UEB Online.
UEB Online is a training program for sighted people to learn Unified
English Braille (UEB). Unified English Braille has been adopted by
many ...
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Miss Sara:
Thanks. Can you suggest any other study materials? I know that the NFB
has a resource list, and I already have downloaded the lessons from their
site.
Thanks again.
From: Sarah Rebecca Cohen
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:29 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Dumb Question
Hi, Jerry.
Here’s what the Braille Authority of North America has to say about
eliminated contractions in UEB:
“ation and ally were eliminated because they created complications
in rules having to do with capital letters in the middle of words. Now
all capital letters can be used anywhere.
to, into and by were eliminated to allow for greater consistency in
usage of other symbols, and so that all words have space boundaries.
com was eliminated in order to remove the ambiguity between the
contraction and a hyphen.
ble was eliminated to allow for precise reading and writing of numbers
wherever they occur within literary context.
dd was eliminated to allow for a single way to show the
period/dot/decimal point even when it occurs in the middle of words or
numbers.
o'clock was eliminated because it is a rarely used word and an
exception to the capital rule would have been necessary.â€
<http://www.brailleauthority.org/ueb/abcs/abcs-ueb.html#contractions>h
ttp://www.brailleauthority.org/ueb/abcs/abcs-ueb.html#contractions
Hope this helps!
Sarah
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:14 PM
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Subject: [duxuser] Dumb Question
To All DBT Usersâ€":
I have, what may be considered a dumb question. I have received my
UPDATE TO UEB manual. I was going through it up to the “Less
Restrictive Contractions†section and I thought to myself, Why are
some of the contractions eliminated? I know that for some, it is to
reduce the possibility of confusing them with other braille
signs/contractions. However, as in the seperation of the contractions
for “Forâ€, “ANDâ€, “OFâ€, “THEâ€, “WITHâ€, and the
letter “Aâ€, there is no connectivity between these. For work I do,
it is great, income wise; but I thought the whole premise of braille
ws to conserve line/page space. As I said, just a dumb question. Thanks for
any clarification.
Jerry
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