[duxuser] Re: Letters and Numbers
- From: "Lynn Carroll" <lynnc@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:45:16 -0600
Dear Listers,
I'm not "expert", but I have taken the Nemeth Braille class. If you are
using Nemeth braille, the correct answer is: no letter indicator; no
numeric indicator; yes multipurpose indicator.
The braille in dot numbers for C54 would be: 6, 1-4, 5, 2-6, 2-5-6
In ASCII that's: ,c"54
Here is some explanation:
Letter indicators are mostly only used in Nemeth with letters that stand
alone or are single letter abbreviations or are the same as a short-form
word, NOT when they are right next to (no space) a number.
Numeric indicators are mostly only used in Nemeth after a space or after
a minus sign that follows a space. (There are exceptions to both of
these; it wouldn't be braille if there weren't!)
When a number follows a letter, it is assumed to be a subscript in
print. To show that the 54 is not a subscript, the "multipurpose
indicator," dot 5, is used. See section 177(ii) of the Nemeth Code or
print page 202 of "An Introduction to Braille Mathematics."
To get Duxbury to do this either:
a) edit the translated braille
or
b) In addition to being in "technical context" [tcs], surround the
expression with [ts] and [te]. This can be done from the Layout menu,
math codes by typing n for "technical notation" or by entering the codes
individually. Between the C and 54, place the code [bline], which can
be accessed from Layout, math codes by typing m for
"baseline/multipurpose indicator."
You probably didn't want to know all this, but that's what the DELETE
button is for.
Lynn Carroll, volunteer transcriber
Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Sandy Rathjen
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:51 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Letters and Numbers
I've been looking all morning for your answer! Don't know for sure, but
here are my thoughts. (For what they're worth :-) )
I have found no rule saying not to use the English letter indicator in
this situation, so I would use it.
Brailling the numbers without the numeric indicator may be correct, but
might be confused as punctuation, so I believe that the numeric
indicator should be used. No spaces anywhere in the expression..
I'm sure you are already using the Nemeth parentheses (dots 12356 and
dots 23456).
Interestingly enough, DBT, in Math Code, Technical Context, uses the
letter indicator but not the numeric indicator. MegaDots, in the Nemeth
(BabyNemeth) Style uses the numeric indicator but not the letter
indicator.
I am in the United States. If you are elsewhere, this may be all
wrong!!!
Is there an "expert" that can give a more definitive answer?
lhawkins@xxxxxxx wrote:
What I am dealing with is the numbers in the book are C34, D54, etc.,
etc.
Then in the text these page numbers are referred to. This is a science
book.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Sandy Rathjen
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:51 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Letters and Numbers
Could you be more specific about what you need to braille? (Actual
text
and context) We'll get some answers!
lhawkins@xxxxxxx wrote:
How do I reference (C34) print page numbers inside scientific notation?
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How do I reference (C34) print page numbers inside scientific
notation?
What I am dealing with is the numbers in the book are C34, D54, etc.,
etc. Then in the text these page numbers are referred to. This is a
science book.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sandy Rathjen
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:51 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Letters and Numbers
Could you be more specific about what you need to braille? (Actual text
and context) We'll get some answers!
lhawkins@xxxxxxx wrote:
How do I reference (C34) print page numbers inside scientific notation?
How do I reference (C34) print page numbers inside scientific notation?
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