Hi Catherine and others The problem with articles like the one you mention is that, while they may contain accurate information, they don't provide an assessment of the risk in relative terms. Every time you connect to the Internet, there is a risk that a hacker somewhere will take control of your computer and delete all the files on your hard drive. Does that mean that we should all stop using the Internet? Viruses can be spread through Word files, but these days, the most troublesome viruses are spread using non-Word files attached to email messages. Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express are especially prone to this kind of virus, and so if you want to follow the logic of this article, you should not use these programs (I don't, actually). Last year, Microsoft issued 72 security alert bulletins, but that hasn't stopped people from using Microsoft products. I think it's reasonable to say that millions of Word files are transferred every day, and there is probably a very small percentage of those files that contain viruses. EVERYONE these days should have an up-to-date virus checking program such as Norton Anti-virus or PC-Cillin running on their computer. It is true that non-text information is contained in Word files, but the user does have some control over what information is stored (via the User Information tab in the Options menu). Saving a Word file as plain text will remove all font information such as italics and bold, and may also lose a lot of formatting information as well. I have found that Rich Text Format (RTF) has a number of compatibility problems, and that it is by no means as universal as Microsoft would have us believe. In any case, does it really matter that much if someone can find out how many times a document was saved? I for one don't have time to go looking for that kind of information when I get a file via email, and unless you are working in a high-security environment where privacy is critical, I doubt that any of the information about a document's properties would be of much interest to anyone. Clearly, it is up to individual organisations and users as to what policy they have in relation to the sending and receiving of Word files (or any other type of file, for that matter), but I think that basic precautions such as having anti-virus software, and not opening files unless you know who sent them, are sufficient in the vast majority of cases. For me both as a user and a braille producer, the benefits of being able to send Word files far outweigh the risks. Cheers Bruce On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:53:52 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Hi, Listers, >This is not as off-topic as it sounds. In my search for a program to open >MSWORD files without using MSWORD itself, I found an article which was >absolutely frightening. It encouraged people not to email .doc files >because, when these files are opened by the recipient, they contain a lot >more than the original user ever meant to send. >Do you remember my mentioning the junk pages I got when I convert MSWORD >to ascii text? This article points out that if you lok closely, you will >see everything about a document's creation including who created it, where >it is stored on the computer, how many times it was recovered and saved, >very precise computer address info, shall I go on? >It also mentions that the transfer of .doc files can result in viruses >without doing anything else--not ot mention anyone who would want to >give viruses. The >recommendation is that no .doc files be sent as >attachments via email. >Instead, these files should be saved while still in word as either rich >text or plain text. The articles says that saving in this way deletes the >specific document creation information without damaging much of a >document's attributes or losing any of the content. >I intend to write to those of my customers who have recently sent me >things in MSWORd and point out this danger. I hope some of you will do the >same. > >Catherine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-Catherine Thomas >braille@xxxxxxxxx / > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >* * * >* This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. >* To unsubscribe, send a blank message with >* unsubscribe >* as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also >* subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription >* options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive >* is also located there. >* Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com >* * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *