[duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
- From: "Diane Scalzi" <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 15:48:39 -0500
Hi Kathy,
As you can tell, I am still working on this menu. Following the instructions
in DBT help, I copied the code string from your last message into all items
on my menu. Now I am trying to hide the codes per the instructions in DBT
help. I am using Word 2007, and the procedure is different from the one
described there. Even though I think I have the right boxes checked to hide
the codes, JAWS is still reading them. Is this normal behavior? Can someone
tell me how to hide these codes in Word 2007? Thanks.
Diane
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Riessen, Kathleen (SA School for Vision Impaired)
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 6:32 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
I would say that your issue with not being able to change the mws file has
to do with administrator rights. Even on my own computer where supposedly I
have administrator rights, I find that I need to copy the mws file into a
directory which is considered "safe", make my changes and then copy the file
back into the templates directory.
I have also found that if I wish to make changes to my DBT template I need
to run it "with administrator rights". To do this right-click your desktop
icon and choose "run as administrator"
Now back to the List Style.
As long as you are using the dbt.mws style (default) which came with DBT
then the List style should automatically map. You shouldn't need to make any
changes to the mws file.
But you may need to ensure that the List style in DBT is correct.
We have ours with the following parameters:
List. (ensure a fullstop at the end of the name, so DBT recognises it as a
paragraph style)
[hi1:3:0:2:2]
[hi]
The parameter [hi1:3:0:2:2] means paragraph begins in cell 1 with runovers
cell 3, 0 right margin. The values of 2 set the increment of the left and
runover margins when you move to a level 2 or level 3 List style with the
use of the Alt-right arrow key.
A further suggestion which WILL require some changes to the dbt.mws file.
According to the mws file supplied by DBT, the TOC (table of contents) Word
Style maps to List. We have changed this to map to Contents.
We then have a specific DBT style call "Contents.", which is similar to the
List style but has a 6 cell right margin ensuring that a long paragraph
wraps before reaching the number on the right hand side of the page.
The parameters for our Contents. style in DBT is
[hi1:3:6:2:2]
[hi]
We have found this style also useful for such things as menus where you have
a price on the right hand side.
A menu item in Word can then be entered using the TOC style as
Fried Chicken with rice served with steamed vegetables in season and
gravy[[*fr;p~".*]]6.50
The menu description should then wrap before the right "column" where you
want the price to sit.
I hop this all makes sense.
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Alternative Print Production
SA School for Vision Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email: Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf
of Diane Scalzi <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2014 07:35
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Hi Kathleen,
I apparently must have created this list paragraph style in Word at some
point, because it appears on my list when I press Shift-Control-S. I tried
adding it to the style map in SWIFT and received the following error
message:
DBT Error
Error 75, Path/File access error
If the problem persists, contact your technical support, giving the error
number,
error description, and the steps taken to replicate this error.
OK Cancel
Then I read the document in help about editing .mws files and tried to do
it, but got an access denied error when I tried to save the dbt.mws file
after I had made my changes.
I am running DBT 11.1 SR 2 on a computer running Windows 7 64 bit.
Thank you for jogging my memory about .mws files. I do recall learning how
to edit the files when I took the DBT course through the Caroll Center and
that the file was in the templates folder, but didn't remember the name of
the file I needed to edit.
Looks like I will be able to meet my needs if only I can clear up the
apparent security issues. All additional help appreciated. Thanks.
Diane
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Riessen, Kathleen (SA School for Vision Impaired)
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:08 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Diane,
In Word are you actually applying a List Style, or simply formatting a
paragraph to look like a list?
When importing a file, DBT does not apply a formatting style according to
how it "looks" in Word, but according to the Style name which has been
applied to a paragraph. The default name is Normal which DBT will
automatically convert to Para.
The List style is one of those styles which does not appear in the Word
style list by default, you need to create it.
Go to the Home Ribbon and open the style pane by clicking on the small arrow
in the bottom right corner of the styles tab. (Alt-Ctrl-Shift-S)
Click on the "New Style" button, bottom left and create a style called
"List" with Paragraph as the Style Type. You can use the Format button to
define the formatting you wish this style to have.
Ensure that the box "New Documents based on this template" is ticked so that
your template is updated and the style is available in all documents. If you
wish, you can also assign a shortcut key to a style as well. We use Alt-L, L
to apply the List style to a paragraph.
By applying this List style to a paragraph in Word, it should then import
into DBT applying the List style as defined in your DBT template.
Additionally if you are wanting indented List entries then a List 2, List 3,
List 4 style in Word will import into DBT as List [level 2], List [level 3],
List [level 4] respectively.
I hope this helps
Kathy
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Alternative Print Production
SA School for Vision Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email: Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf
of Diane Scalzi <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2014 07:10
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Hi Krystin,
Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any ideas on the best way to produce a
restaurant menu in large print that will import easily to DBT? Thanks.
Diane
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kristyn Leigh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:21 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
You can import bulleted lists or numbered lists that way. The easiest
solution for a paragraph list is to use the list style in Duxbury.
Kristyn
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:11 PM, "Diane Scalzi" <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I received no response from the list on my last email, so I hope you can
help me with this one. I am working on a restaurant menu in which I am using
the list paragraph style to show the various items. I had this apparently
strange idea that when I imported the document to DBT that the lists would
convert to the list style. I thought I had prepared documents this way in
the past, but I must be wrong because it isn't working. Any ideas? Thanks.
Diane
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