[duxuser] Re: Security issue

  • From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:19:12 -0600

Make the files available through a Secure Web site. Then they can track
both who is logging in and from where. If you see suspect activity, then
you can shut off access to the offender. This is how we do some secure
tracking here.
 
Basically, you need to track both who is logging in, and where they are
logging in from. eg Login id and password, and ip address. 
Then you can see that John Doe has logged in 15 times, request the same
title 13 times, and has done so from 13 different ip addresses. HHHMMM
This would set off all kinds of alarm bells for me. especially if it is
also noticed that John Doe is doing this all within a small time window.
-> How did John Doe access the file from 13 different IP addresses, in
the time that it took to basically download  one copy of the title in
question?
-> Why does John Doe need 13 copies of the title in question?
-> Why do the 13 different IP Addresses show up as being registered to
someone other then John Doe?
-> Why do 12 of the 13 IP Addresses appear to be not from the basic same
geographical region as John Doe?
-> Why do 12 of the 13 IP addresses appear to be different then the one
typically used by John Doe?
ETC.
 
Other advantages to this approach is that a given title can be made
available to the requestor for a given period of time. Allowing them
only a small time window to grab the file. 
 
This approach can also be done through a regular Web site, but it is
much harder to track who is actually grabbing the desired title.
 
Ok, this addresses the getting of the files for the user. How ever once
the file is in the hands of the user, I believe that then the
responsibility of the user to stay within the copy right laws regardless
of where they reside. Step away from the Braille community for a second,
and imagine:
A person walks into a book store, and purchases a book. This person has
free access to a photo copier. This person photo copies the book that
they bought at the book store. This person then gives the photo copied
book to whoever wants it. Who is breaking the copy right law in this
scenario? 
Now ask the question, "how is this any different then preventing a
Braille version of a title from the same unscrupulous person?" 
It isn't!
 
As long as you can prove that best efforts were made to prevent copy
right violations from happening, I believe that you are protected
regardless of where you reside.
 
 
Stephen Dawes  <B.A., B.Sc.>
Management Systems Analyst
CITO Office, Information Technology #8245       |  Phone: (403) 268-5527
The City of Calgary                             |  Fax:   (403) 268-2546
   PO Box 2100 Postal Station M.                |  Email:
Stephen.Dawes@xxxxxxxxxx
   Calgary, Alberta, Canada. T2P 2M5            |  Web:
http://www.Calgary.ca <http://www.Calgary.ca> 

 


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        From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell
        Sent: 2005 April 01 8:38 AM
        To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [duxuser] Re: Security issue
        
        
        Hi Eakachai
         
        This is a very difficult problem indeed.  May I ask what country
you are from?
         
        One possible solution that springs to mind is to perhaps zip the
files up, but zip with a password.  Students would then apply to you for
a password.
         
        However, this would not stop a student passing on the unzipped
documents.
         
        Depending on your country's laws, you might be able to make a
clear statement of copyright, and additionally make it clear that anyone
copying the material for financial gain would be liable to prosecution.
However, you would then require to actually prosecute a few offenders in
order to send a real message out.
         
        Does anyone else have any ideas?
         
        George.


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                From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eakachai
Charoenchaimonkon
                Sent: 25 March 2005 01:36
                To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [duxuser] Security issue
                
                

                Dear listers,

                My office is responsible for distributing electronic
Braille student-book via Internet. I'm facing with a crucial problem
regarding security and copyright. 

                 

                                Commonly, I can't upload original *.dxb
files on my official website. We prefer to convert all files into *.brf
and ignore graphics braille unavoidably. Now we still confront a problem
that some NGOs in my country who are currently coping with education for
visually impaired students. We discover that they copy our files and
remove my publishing text in order to claim for their profit. 

                 

                Once I was advised to run the header text separately for
the odd and even pages. For example, header text on the left hand side
may say "the title of the book", while the right hand say "published by
my office name". This solution is not possible in Duxbury.  

                 

                Please give us some advices the way we can deal with
this problem.

                 

                With my best regards

                 

                Eakachai

                 

        
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