[duxuser] Re: TGD Pro
- From: Tom Whalen <ptkt3860@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:42:12 -0800 (PST)
Thanks Sharon, ours is a Enabling also, but as far as I can tell the model is
just ET. Do you or anyone know if this model will work as well?
Yes.
We use Enabling's Romeos and a Juliet Pro 60 for our TDG graphics.
Sharon von See
www.techadapt.com
At 02:17 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
>Hi John or anyone else that would care to comment. We have a tactile image
>enhancer (junior), which is broken. Before we purchase another, is it
>possible to emboss tactile drawings on an enabling technologies ET
>Brailler using the TDG Pro software. Any information will be appreciated.
>
>Tom Whalen
>Mesa State College
>Grand Junction, CO
>970-248-1307
>
>John Panarese wrote:
>As far as opinions go, you are absolutely correct. Everyone has an
>opinion and that's the way it should be. I don't necessarily find the reply
>from David an "attack" as it was a response to one on a product, regardless
>of it being opinion based, but that, not surprisingly, is strictly...my
>opinion.
>
>I do want to state my opinion on tactile graphics as it d oes relate to
>the two below messages. It might be straying off topic to the Duxbury list,
>but its, indirectly related just the same.
>
>Tactile representations of diagrams, pictures, equations or anything
>else are probably the most underrated aspect of blindness in an education
>environment. I certainly wasn't exposed to this as much as I wish when I was
>in high school and grade school, and I don't think, as with just about all
>the other blindness technologies, blind students fully appreciate this fact.
>It literally opens a new world to one who cannot see and gives one a
>perspective that cannot be stressed enough. What Duxbury, Repro-Tronics,
>and any embosser maker has done towards this end simply cannot be thanked
>enough by the blind.
>
>With that said, I will say this in terms of my experiences with
>embossed images. I am speaking about embossed representations on Braille
>paper and not any done on the thermo form paper. Sometimes, more can be too
>much. What I mean is this. It is like a sighted person trying to look at a
>picture or TV show in which too much color or glare is present or any person
>at a concert in which the music is so loud, the singer cannot be clearly
>heard over the instruments. The concept of four levels of dots and more
>dots per inch is fine and well, but I have been able to compare such complex
>images done on various embossers. Frankly, I have found myself more
>confused, bewildered and concerned than impressed by the Tiger products.
>
>There are two basic elements I am speaking of here. First, as I said,
>more can be too much. Simply, all the dots and levels did little more than
>make me feel like I was trying to listen to someone speaking to me from
>across the table at a trade show in which you have hundreds of people
>present in the room and dozens of speech products and presentations going on
>around me at once. I just couldn't get a grasp of what I was fe eling, even
>when it was pointed out to me what it was supposed to be.
>
>Secondly, the effects on the paper itself was easily noted. I would
>seriously question both the dot degradation and paper integrity with so much
>puncturing occurring. Couple this with a school environment with a kid who,
>let's say, might not treat the images all that carefully, and I could find
>myself predicting the paper literally falling apart in a matter of time
>
>Again, I am speaking from my own personal experiences and, of course,
>from my own opinions. Some may debate me, and that is fine. I just will
>take my 17 dots per inch and graphics done on an Index embosser or Enabling
>embosser if it was me having to either recommend or advocate for a blind
>student. I mean absolutely no offense to the manufacturer of Tiger products
>nor to those who stand behind them. I'm also not looking for any reactions
>that will cause this list to go any more off topic, as I apologize to any
>who might feel my post has already done this.
>
>Take Care
>
>
>
>John D. Panarese
>Managing Director
>Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
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>Hauppauge, NY 11788
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Robert Clark
>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:22 AM
>To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: reply
>
>Opinions, its just opinions. Take a shot at the opinions, not at those
>who state them.
>
>"Alan; to sit back and take a cheap shot at someone else's product
>without stating yo ur name..."
>
>Hmmm, what happened there? That message was signed. You called him by
>name and in the same breath chastised him for not stating his name? LOL
>
>Voicing opinions is legal. Attacking opinions is also legal.
>
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