[duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
- From: "N. Lehman" <nachum@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:35:40 -0500
Hi Susan,
When I want to print the print document, I want the line numbers to look
normal and not be interspersed in the lines. My plan is to use the regular
line numbering feature in Word, then place the BANA line numbers into every
line making them invisible and maybe 1 point size. Is there an easier way?
Thanks,
Ed
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Susan
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:30 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Hi Ed,
Glad you can write a macro for a 300 page document, as that will help
tremendously. The line number must appear at the beginning of each PRINT
line, consequently it does matter where you put each number. Depending on
print line lengths, not all braille lines will necessarily have a print line
number. All line numbers will appear at the right margin, WITHOUT the number
sign, and a right margin is maintained for the entire page. When the new
print line begins within the braille line, it is indicated by 3 blank
spaces. You will not have more than one print line starting within a single
braille line.
Your strategy on how to best work with the document and line numbers will
depend on your original source document (that is, whether you get a doc file
from the teacher, whether it is scanned, etc.).
Yes, you are correct in choosing the English (American Textbook DE) - BANA
template in DBT ... that and the BANA Nemeth template are the only DBT
templates designed to work with the Word BANA Braille 2006 template.
Good luck.
Susan
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of N. Lehman
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:57 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Hi again,
Okay. I can easily create a macro to insert a sequencing line number with
the proper style on every line of the document as in the linenums.doc. That
will make our 300 page document a drop easier to set up. I assume that the
line number can be anywhere on the line. I don't want the poetic formatting
so I guess if we don't set any special style for the rest of the document,
that will work.
I chose the English (American textbook DE) - BANA when I came from Word. Is
this correct?
This is the first time I've worked with the BANA Template. It will help us
tremendously.
Thanks,
Ed
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Susan
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:23 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Ed,
Unfortunately there is no automation between Word's line numbering and the
way we need to do it for DBT to deal with the line numbers. That's on my
wish list for the future. You will have to automatically insert each line
number and style each number with the LineNum character style.
You don't want to delete the paragraph marks at the end of paragraphs.
You'll insert the line number at the beginning of each paragraph, and you'll
also have the line numbers inserted throughout the paragraph itself if the
teacher's document is numbering lines within paragraphs vs. one line
paragraphs.
Make sure you search the rest of the "Word Template BANA Braille 2006" help
for "prose" so you can read additional info and look at a sample to guide
you through setting up the document so the first and last lines of the
braille page are handled correctly.
I won't kid you ... depending on how many pages of line numbering you have,
this can take a while. However, it's a lot easier than trying to manually
force it in the braille file itself.
Susan
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:39 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Hi Ed,
I'm not Susan, but the way I understand it is that you would have to insert
the numbers manually the same as you do with print page numbers. Here's what
I would do. If I had an already created Word document, and those lines were
the lines I need to show in braille, first turn on your paragraph marks so
you can see the exact line endings. As you go through the file, delete the
paragraph mark that delineates the print line and insert the linenums code
with the line number.
Jean
Be nice to your enemies. (It drives them nuts).
----- Original Message -----
From: "N. Lehman" <nachum@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Susan,
I just upgraded to 10.6 and I have been checking out the sample file. I
Am still a bit confused. Can I take a file which exists already and add
line
numbers to the whole file like I can in Word? Do I have to use the linenums
style in a manual way (ex. one line number at a time)?
Thanks for the help,
Ed
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Susan
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:01 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Hi Ed,
If you are inclined to get DBT 10.6 you can get line numbering by using
Word's BANA template and the LineNums character style (see documentation
for Word Template BANA Braille 2006). A link to a sample file is included so
You can see how it is done.
The regular line numbering feature in Word does NOT work. The ability to
Add the line numbers via the above method was added to DBT 10.6 and will not
work in earlier versions.
Susan
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of N. Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:38 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
It didn't work when I tried just importing through SWIFT.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Nachum Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:08 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Betsy said 10.6. I thought it wouldn't work in 10.5. I will try it as
soon as I get in tomorrow.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 12/5/07 5:09 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
Have you tried it?
George.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nachum Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:07 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
I am actually using 10.5. Is there anything I can do there?
thanks
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From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 12/5/07 3:29 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: line numbering in Word
If you are using DBT 10.6 you're halfway there. Make sure in
Word that line numbering is turned on. I think that if you use
Swift to import it into DBT, the line numbers will come with it. It's
been a long time since I had to do this, but that's what I
remember.
Betsy
At 10:22 AM 12/5/2007, you wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I need to make a Braille document for a teacher which corresponds to
a printed Word document which the student is using. I need the Word
document
to have line numbers in the print version and those numbers should be in the
Braille document so the teacher can tell the student where to look. How can
I do this?
Thanks once again,
Ed Lehman
Computer Sciences For The Blind, Brooklyn NY
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