I'm all in favour of being corrected when |I'm wrong no worries and this
is why this list is so good, it is for learning after all.
What is the hash key then as somehow your mail got a little unreadable,
Thanks,
Tony
On 18/06/2022 16:26, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
apologies Tony I do not like to have the correct you. The pound sterling key===========================================================
and the hash key for referred to especially by talks as the pound key a
totally different symbols. The hash key and key indicates numbers and the
shift and the number three for the pound sterling key indicates money.
On 18 Jun 2022, at 16:12, Tony Sweeney <tonymsweeney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:t
I'm sure Stuart all you clever people by now have worked out where the
hash key is on your Windows computers.
Well there isn't one as such but try shift and the number 3 and you
have the pound sign, same thing.
I wonder if Jackie could kindly let us know the name of her new stand
and where she bought it as I've been looking for exactly that for a
while now.
Good minutes.
Thanks,
Tony
On 18/06/2022 15:24, Stuart Haxell (stuhax) wrote:
Cork technology club notes 18th June 2022
Good morning or evening or whatever time you decide to read these notes. I
will be your note taker today for the cork tech club so as you can guess
you will be in for a bit of a read, let us begin.
Nine participants today
Table of contents
Contents
Cork technology club notes 18th June 2022
Table of contents
Pre meeting discussions.
focus group for RTE
New laptop.
New phone.
Quick assist.
Covid.
Voice control/iPhone
Zoom/Teams meetings
Zoom screen sharing.
Revolute/ text frauds
Conclusion
Pre meeting discussions.
The meeting began with a number of eager participants lining up outside the
door waiting for the teacher to open it. Ken was not feeling the best today
we wish him all the best and a fast recovery. The early participants
discussed the weather. It was quite different in various parts of the
country. Jackie said she was out last night the note taker thought she was
out in the nightclubs. Cearbhall told the group about an interview that he
watched were a Russian adviser to America discussed Putin. The recent
podcast that was put up on the FB list was discussed many people found it
funny. It was for sightless cinema. This went on for a while while we
waited for more people to join the meeting. Discussion on how fast the year
is going came up. The new apple voices that are going to be introduced in
IOS sixteen were also briefly discussed. Eloquence was anticipated. The
history of iPhone voices came up Alex was said to have been badly
transferred to the iPhone from the mac. The Waltons
vn
show came up as well. It turns out that Jackie went to a show in the
Sligo hawk swell theatre called the 3 Mary’s. she found it to be fantastic.
She described in detail the lovely burger she ate during the show it
sounded delicious. She gave a description of the play. So, the note taker
guesses he was wrong in this instance.
focus group for RTE
ken posted up a focus group for rte. on the FB list recently. Ken said that
all details of it are in the e-mail. Ken was surprised that he received it.
Ken described how he sends e-mails with links to the list. Discussion of
how the list can sometime bring up hidden characters if you delete
characters was highlighted.
New laptop.
Ken described his new dell laptop he is extremely excited to get it. He
said he should have it by next week. It is a bran new laptop. Ken said he
will try NVDA for a while. Cearbhall gave the group a description of the
differences between JAWS and NVDA. Jackie also gave her opinion of it.
New phone.
Paul described his wife’s new phone. She went for the Samsung galaxy. She
is really enjoying it. She was able to transfer her details over no problem
from her Huawei phone. Discussion of this Chinese brand of phone commenced
for a period.
Quick assist.
Jackie informed the group that the quick assist function of laptops does
not work with JAWS. According to Jackie this is because it will no longer
be a part of windows eleven. She commenced to do a lot of investigation of
this issue. She contacted a number of groups that help people with
accessibility issues around Ireland. It no longer works with any screen
reader according to them. Quick assist is the function wherein someone can
remotely access your laptop to aid you. This issue has appeared in the
latest update. Cearbhall said he will contact be my eyes to have a look at
this issue. This will affect a sizeable number of service users according
to someone Jackie contacted about the issue. Windows key and F allows you
to send a fault report to Microsoft. She was told to put in hash tag
accessibility to get their accessibility department. The group tried to
find the hashtag key for a while as no one knew where it was on a keyboard.
Many options were tried but the note taker was u
abr
le to find it on his laptop. One of the participants swore quite
vulgarly. Chris also discussed his holiday to turkey at this point he
sounded like he had a remarkably interesting time.
Covid.
A number of participants discussed their history with covid. The symptoms
were discussed as well as the lack of masks available for sale. One of the
participants said they were a close contact. Chris mentioned that quite a
number of people on his plane back from turkey were not wearing masks. This
discussion went on for a while. Discussion of priority boarding was a topic
discussed as Chris was offered it on his way back from turkey, he was also
offered a wheelchair, he did not need one.
The hashtag issue reared its head again for a while with participants
trying to figure out what its purpose is. It was compared to drugs because
of the name.
Voice control/iPhone
One of the participants asked what the purpose of voice control was. It is
a way of controlling your phone by giving it voice commands. The note taker
used it to take a picture of themselves in the past. Jackie described her
fantastic stand she bought to hold her iPhone. She compared it to a
microphone stand. She uses it for teams and zoom and for voice dream
scanner it has improved the quality of the scanner. It cost her eighteen
euro. The issue of hashtag raised itself from the deep briefly like a
dolphin jumping out of the water before going under again briefly. It is
called number on a keyboard with JAWS. Paul pressed all the keys on his
keyboard but could not find it. Cearbhall found it on his keyboard.
Jackie’s dog Sasha joined briefly in the meeting to contribute to the
discussion of hashtag keys. This was a persistent issue throughout the
meeting as you can easily infer.
Zoom/Teams meetings
Cearbhall said he worked on zoom during the week. His goal was to set up a
meeting during the week, but he faced difficulty. A number of participants
were able to do it. To do it enter the schedule option on the home menu and
follow the instructions from that point. Different methods were discussed.
Participants had a few diverse ways of doing it. Teams was brought up it is
extremely easy to do it on outlook. Jackie gave us her method. You enter
the calendar. This created significant discussion during the tech club.
Whoever created the meeting is the host and can open a meeting.
Ken mentioned that he did teams screenshare for the first time in teams. He
found it to be interesting. He got a small bit of help from Jackie in
practicing for doing it. Ken found it to be very fiddly but, in the end, he
found it worked very well for him. Hashtag came back here to briefly.
Screen sharing is different on an iPad in comparison to an iPad you need to
go to more calling options to find it on an iPhone. Share on an iPad.
Trying to figure out how to do it on the laptop came up control and e is
the key command to do it. ken wondered if you could share audio books
through share screen, Jackie said you could not do this. Stuart suggested
finding audio books on you tube to get it to work, Jackie said drop box
might work we left ken to figure this out. Comparisons of teams and zoom as
platforms commenced for a while. You can do a lot more as a participant to
control a teams meeting as opposed to zoom where the host has more strict
controls over a meeting.
Zoom screen sharing.
Martha suggested downloading a sample of an audiobook to your desktop as a
way of screensharing on teams. Jackie did not think this would work as it
is streamed not downloaded. Ken attempted to share an audiobook to see if
it would work during the meeting It surprisingly did work to the shock of
all participants. Ken entered zoom, turned on video, share content, screen,
start broadcast and microphone is on. Press home then selected his book.
This was zoom however, Jackie said she would evaluate this with ken on
teams to determine is similar results appeared at a later point. Discussion
of audiobooks went on for a while after this. A number of participants said
they do not like listening to eBooks on iPhone. They did not like the
voices. Jackie said she is planning to update her phone to try out the new
features coming in IOS 16. The lidar functions that will allow us to detect
doors through the camera interested her. Only the twelve pro and up will
have these features. Jackie sha
ede
her favourite voice dream voice Graham, she did this through screen
share. Graham was sleepy but eventually woke up and wowed the audience with
his fantastic vocals. She got him to read the windows jaws guide Cearbhall
sent a number of months ago. Jackie said she shared her screen the same way
ken did to share his audiobook previously. For some strange reason voice
over does not come through with screen share on zoom. Ken decided to assess
if a sample of an audiobook from a website would share as well as a full
book. Ken swore quite vulgarly for some strange inexplicable reason he
continued engaging in this behaviour for a few minutes. Then he started
humming to himself and the audience for some reason. He faced quite a
number of difficulties; however, he eventually was successful. If you are
not focused on the zoom call it was discovered that you could not here the
audio.
Revolute/ text frauds
Ken said he got a revolute message yesterday that said his account was
locked. It was fake be careful of these messages. Martha said she is a
major fan of revolute as she can transfer money easily. She got two buttons
saying request and send. Request means that you ask for money from someone
while send means that you will send them money. Do not add an extra zero by
accident. It was advised that you double check that your money has gone
through Jackie offered to help all you have to do is send her ten euro.
Discussion of other fraudulent messages continued. Jackie mentioned a Post
having one wherein you are told a package has arrived and you can be
charged two euro. Jackie checked in the post office and was reassured that
it was fake. Other participants provided their experiences with fraud text
messages and e-mails. Stuart said he nearly got caught with the caburies
fraud around easter. The note taker advises that everyone be incredibly
careful with these messages. Participants w
re===========================================================
wondering if revolute worked internationally they were unsure.===========================================================
Conclusion
The meeting broke up at this point and the participants decided to break up
for some lunch. This was an interesting meeting. The note taker hopes that
you found these minutes to be interesting.
All the best
Regards
The Note taker
Sent from my iPhone
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