[fb-exchange] Re: Cork technology club notes 3rd February 2024

  • From: "Stuart Haxell" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("stuhax")
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  • Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 13:10:23 +0000

Your welcome ChrisRegardsStuart 
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On 3 Feb 2024, at 17:01, Chris Egan <chrisegan2009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Great notes Stuart thanks Chris 
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On 3 Feb 2024, at 15:39, Stuart Haxell <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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Cork Technology Club, 3rd February 2024


Good morning, everyone. Happy New Year! The note-taker here, so sit back and enjoy the read/listen today.


11 participants.


Apologies received.


The meeting started with the early participants discussing the recent match that took place between Ireland and France, wherein Ireland won. Woo-hoo, go Ireland!


Some people found the commentary on Virgin Media to be the best. Clare mentioned the competition that Fighting Blindness sent out information about regarding the cookery competition that is taking place in Belfast at the Titanic Centre. We wish her the best of luck in taking part in it. The information regarding the competition can be found here. www.culinaryabilityawards.ie 


Martin asked what RSS stands for. The group went scrambling to ask their devices. They eventually found an answer: RSS stands for Round Robin Server. Dominique, however, figured out it was RSS feeds he was actually trying to find the definition for.


The meeting suddenly crashed at this point, kicking everyone out of the meeting unexpectedly. Cearbhall was finding it hard to enter the meeting but eventually got in.


Cearbhall looked up the definition of RSS feed for Martin once he was able to join the meeting. According to him, RSS feed means Really Simple Syndication.


Helen asked the group what she has to do to bank online. She inquired about the nick taken out of bank cards. Jackie said that she needs to download the bank app to start online banking. The group was not sure if it is accessible on Android. It was also recommended that she speak to her bank for help as well. She also asked about passwords and if she would need to change all her passwords to the same, the group reassured her that she wouldn’t have to do this. The group also discussed the way they manage passwords for a while. JAWS and NVDA were briefly mentioned alongside the Vision Academy that Vision Ireland is developing.


Annmaria asked about Bank of Ireland and how accessible it is on iPhone. Jackie said that, according to her experience, it is not very accessible. She finds that the timer for the strong customer authentication runs out too quickly for blind and visually impaired users to manage.


Jackie brought up an email she received from Google; she was not sure if it was genuine. She has had issues with Outlook. It tells her about an email address that she doesn’t remember setting up in the past. She is quite confused. This was discussed for a while. This led to a discussion about other people who had received similar emails before. Cearbhall said that he received one of them during the week. The group feels that they have become very sophisticated recently. 


Jackie explained what a recovery email is to Cearbhall, who was not sure what it was. A recovery email is a backup email address you use to get back into your main email account if you forget your password or get locked out. It helps you reset your password and keep your account safe.


Dominique mentioned that she feels VoiceOver can be a bit sticky on the rotor during a phone call; Jackie agreed with her.


Cearbhall doesn’t like the layout of his home screen. He feels that it is too cluttered. Dominique explained how to delete widgets off his home screen that she felt were causing the issues. He said that his Hable One is the best way to navigate his phone, in his opinion. To delete widgets from a home screen find actions on the rotor and engage edit mode, swipe up or down until you hear delete then double tap. 


Dominique mentioned her email that discusses the Perkins Brailler she sent out yesterday. The description of the Brailler from the email was as follows:


The Perkins Smart Brailler offers a more intuitive way for blind and sighted people to communicate, teach, and learn Braille together. It has a 4-inch display and speaker to provide visual and audio feedback, which is very useful to someone new to learning Braille and their teacher, parent/guardian, or sighted friend. Like the standard Perkins, with the front of the Perkins facing towards you, it has the 6 dot keys, the enter and backspace keys, and the space bar key in the same position. The main difference between the standard and Perkins Smart Brailler is that the Perkins Smart Brailler has a few extra buttons, a menu and functions, and a display, which I will discuss shortly. The Perkins Smart Brailler also allows you to save files onto the internal flash disk or onto a USB key as text files, which can be very useful if a teacher wants to correct work from a student. It has a built-in rechargeable battery which should last for around 5 hours. 


Martin asked if anyone had experienced the Meta glasses. No one had done so. 

Martin said he thinks they are only €300.


Jackie mentioned she was at a very good webinar during the week. She was very impressed with how it was run. It was to do with technology that supports the deaf-blind. She felt that it was the best-run webinar she has ever been to, very professionally run. Some of the features that she liked included sign language, closed captions, chat only visible to hosts to avoid screen readers making it difficult to hear, and alt text on photos that were shown.


Helen asked about learning Braille. Jackie recommended doing a course with Vision Ireland to learn it.


 Martin explained how a Perkins Brailler works. It has six keys and works like a typewriter.


Martin mentioned that he has come across a lot of packages in Lidl that have Braille on them. He was shocked at how many packages had it.


Paul asked Martin if every lift had Braille in it. The group thought that they did. Lifts also may have raised numbers or spoken numbers.


Annmaria asked how to navigate around text boxes on a document. Cearbhall feels that she should be able to tab between the text boxes if they have been implemented correctly. Press NVDA plus space, then tab according to him. This will toggle between reading and edit mode.


Dominique asked if Martin’s Brailler looks like the old ones that you would have seen in primary school. Martin said that it is a very heavy device.


Martin mentioned he had a stylus frame. To use it, you write from right to left.


Cearbhall said he has been working with merging columns on Excel. You cannot edit merged columns. The reason to use these is to make sure they fit right on a piece of paper. He figured out how to unmerge the columns, edit the data, and put them back as merged columns.


Clare wanted to know how to read messages with Siri. She would ask Siri to read an email, and it would not read it back in its entirety. The group suggested using VoiceOver instead of Siri to read messages. To do this, swipe down with two fingers. The group also mentioned Read and Speak in the touch settings. Clare concluded that VoiceOver was interfering with her Siri.


The group started discussing the Apple Watch. Annmarie asked what the benefits were of buying it. Jackie said she feels it is very good for notifications. Ken does not feel it is worth the expense of buying it. Jackie likes the notifications for blood pressure.


Dominique asked about Teams; she wanted to know if Zoom had a username and password for every meeting like Teams. Jackie said it is if you do not have an account.


Ken wished Ger a very happy birthday even though he was not there today. Something special was created and played for him during the meeting. A copy will be included as an attachment to these notes today.


The meeting ended at this point. Reminder: there will not be a meeting of the Dublin Technology Club this Monday due to the bank holiday.


Regards,

The note-taker.

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