Well done for following through on this one Jackie. Perhaps with their
attention drawn to the matter in advance, they will be aware enough to make
sure that it will be accessible.
The Ramble Tag sounds interesting, offering greater freedom than linking, I
presume. I looked it up but it isn't clear if it would conform to social
distancing, probably not. Two metres would be a bit of a stretch.
Sounds like a really good meeting today. Exemplary minutes Cearbhall.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: fb-exchange-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:fb-exchange-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBrearty
Sent: Saturday 6 June 2020 18:36
To: fb-exchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [fb-exchange] Re: Exchange Club meeting Saturday the 6th of June 2020
Hey Cearbhal
I haven't worked on the CoronaVirus app but I've talked to a number of people
and the PA of the Taoiseach said by the looks of things it will work with
voiceover and talk back.
Only time will tell if it does work.
Jackie
sent from LadyJackiesIphone
On 6 Jun 2020, at 6:22 p.m., Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxxx>===========================================================
wrote:
in attendance (12 Participants)
Derry Walsh, Ken Walsh, Martha Parkinson, Declan Meenagh, Albert brown,
Dominique Farrell, Marian Moloney, Jackie McBrearty, Noreen Meagher, Gavin
Allman, Chris Egan, Cearbhall O'Meadhra.
Bert reported that Microsoft is pushing people to use a PIN rather than a
password to log in to Windows. During the week he found that he could not log
in to his PC and that JAWS was silenced at the start where it had always
spoken before. The dialog offered a choice between entering a PIN or logging
in in the usual way. He felt that this was Microsoft's way of preparing for a
future change in Windows.
Jackie tried the new Corona app and found it to be compatible with Voiceover.
She was happy that the developers of the app would keep it compatible with
assistive devices for the future. Declan wondered if the app would be
effective since it is based on Bluetooth and might have difficulty detecting
boundaries that are sufficient to screen off a person but made of such
materials that Bluetooth passes through them unhindered.
Martha drew the group's attention to NCBI's latest drive to establish Tech
clubs in various centres around Ireland. These clubs seem to be similar to
the fb-exchange clubs but are more Q&A sessions responded to by expert staff
rather than peers.
Jackie introduced the "ramble tag". It is a guidance aid, designed to be worn
on the upper arm or wrist of a guide with a visually impaired person. It
acts as a simple alternative to linking or holding arms, offering more
independence to the user while increasing comfort for both users.
See full details at: https://rambletag.co.uk/#jupiterx-primary
A few members reported that they were afraid to get on buses as they would
not know which seats are blocked off and whether someone might come and sit
beside them when in a single seat. It was agreed that this was a problem and
that the only way to gain the 2 metre separation would be if people were
seated at the window seat on opposite sides of the same row.
Marta recounted a friendly incident when she was unable to enter a bus that
was at the limit of its permitted load. A gentleman stopped the driver from
moving off and got off the bus to let Martha and her guide dog take his
place. The driver then stopped the gentleman from leaving and returned the
favour by inviting him to stay on the bus, standing at the door.
Ken described the problem he had solved during the week in which a rogue
character appeared in an email. He was copying an announcement of the usual
zoom meeting. After pasting the text into the new email, he found that the
Zoom link did not work even though this link had always worked before. He and
Cearbhall worked on the problem and found some machine code in the top left
corner of the message body. It appears that this must have caused the email
program to misinterpret the link and convert it to text. Ken found a work
around to avoid the problem by keeping a clean copy of the email in Drafts
and re-editing it each time he needed to send it out. Windows Live Mail does
not have a resend function unlike Outlook.
Bert found that he could not determine if the new upgrade of the Audible app
put him in the cloud or not. Others pointed out that the app defaults to the
Cloud under the name "Library" and that the collection saved on the Device
is found under the label "Download".
All agreed that there were some useful features in the new version such as
that which permitted a flick of one finger up or down to delete a title
instead of the more complex usual method. It was generally agreed that the
web site is messy for screen reader use compared to the app.
Ken bought new earphones on Amazon for €15 and found the quality to be
excellent after a faulty start.
Martha Was unable to get to the Amazon checkout and found herself locked in
the Cloud. After some discussion the group agreed that this must have related
to a system fault where her card details were corrupted, pointing to a
different country. She resolved the issue by changing the country back to
Ireland and all is now well.
Chris explained that YouTube retains the last used position in an video
stream so that the user can pick up again where he or she left off last time
the app was run.
Declan asked the group to help him to prepare a list of all the useful
assistive devices that they could recommend for each room of the house. This
is a list to be presented to people experiencing visual impairment for the
first time.
The meeting ended.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxxx
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