There were several of us in Lt Holzzman's class spring semester our pisshead
year. I think Bill, Ted, Hank Jackson, Les Abernathy, etc. were some in the
class, at one point teaching us map reading. Toward the end of one class in
map reading, she asked us "what color is the water?" (in her Yankee accent)
Without practice, without prompting, we all said "blue" trying to mimic her
Yankee accent. The next class, she did not come in, Cpt. Orr or another
captain came in and instructed us in the proper way to treat an office - we
were doing pushups for quite a while.
Doesn't anyone else remember this? Many of us decided to go D&C because of
the Lt.
Killer
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Subject: [fighting_texas_aggie_band_class_of_1977] Re: Female AFROTC instructor
I was D&C but Holtzman was the only female bull that year, as I remember. She
was disliked by many, both cadet and cadre. Her smart-ass Yankee mouth and
accent didn't exactly endear her to us Texican boys..... I believe she was on
staff on pisshead year also, I seem to remember having her for a few classes in
the Trigon.
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I agree with Ted. LT Holtzman was the only female bull. She tried so hard to be
a ballbuster and failed miserably. I think the Aggie bulls weren’t particularly
enamored with her but the non Aggie ones treated her decently. Rumor was CPT
Webber our Army advisor was nailing her. I never believed it until our butt
year when Brian Green got me a job as a projectionist/cashier at the Sun
Theater and they walked in together to watch the groad flicks. I kept my eyes
straight ahead and didn’t act like I knew them or make eye contact but I know
he knew I recognized them. Hell, I was getting ready for summer camp and spent
enough time in his office. Groad
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On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:14 AM, Patrick Pennington <AggieFNP@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Queso, Ruth Ann was a good friend who just wanted to be a good Aggie and
officer. I did and do respect her a lot, but her hubby, JB is a political
douche IMO. She obviously loves him so what can I say? Oh, it wasn’t me that
sent ya. Groad
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On Mar 15, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Robert Spiller <rspiller@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It was not me!
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Subject: [fighting_texas_aggie_band_class_of_1977] Re: Female AFROTC instructor
Ruth Ann was our same class year. Not a bull. Or a bull-ette!
I once had a dinner date with her spring 77 and someone... I wonder who, sent
me to the quad the next day. A Monday. Duncan was closed on Sunday nights. We
had to eat off campus. My only quadding.
Anyone in this group gonna fess up?
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On Mar 15, 2021 22:11, Stephen Wright <dr.wilbur.wright@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Only one I knew was Ruth Ann Schumacher but I think she went Army.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:05 PM Michael Brown <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hey, Dr. COL Wright, or other Air Force guys.
Do any of you recall a female officer in the ROTC detachment during our years
there?
Having an online discussion with a guy who claims his mom was one, in the first
year women were in the Corps, so 1974-1975. Says the male officers treated her
like crap, and some cadets refused to salute.
Sounds like a fairy tale to me, I was D&C, but would have been taken ROTC in
pisshead year, and I don't recall a female. You'd think one would be rare
enough to register on me.
A scan of the Aggielands online also fails to show any female officers in any
branch.
Dean
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Dr Steve "Wilbur" Wright