I guess the "Morgan" nametag on your Class B wasn't enough of a hint for
her.....
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I was summoned to Lt Holzman’s office, in either the fish or pisshead year - I
can’t remember. I did not know why. When I got there, Lt Holzman met me in
the hall of the Trigon and began a rant that lasted for minutes, regarding my
repeated absence from bull text. (That was true of classes in later years, but
not then, as I was on Army scholarship, and did not have an unexcused absence
in a bull text class.). When she stopped to take a breath, I respectfully
stated that there must have been a mistake, as I had not missed class. She
held up her class attendance book, and a look of surprise came on her face.
She had apparently mistaken me for someone else. Just as she did, Captain
Laidig came out of his office, assured me that everything would be alright, and
dismissed me. I wasn’t there to see it, but I bet he chewed some ass, then.
Ted
On Mar 16, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Mark Kelley <markrkelley77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was called into Major Orr's (Old Army Orr of the Ordnance Corps was his
nickname if I recall correctly) office for the obligatory "do you want to get a
commission" talk. I told him that my fiance didn't want to be an Army wife
(that's another story) so, no thank you, sir.
We were in the midst of our brief conversation when Holzman walked in. I stood
up in respect as she was a lady, and addressed her as Holstein. The room fell
deathly quiet. I was embarrassed and corrected myself and apologized. Nothing
was said further.
Mark R. Kelley markrkelley77@xxxxxxxxx
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:59 AM Bill Schwennsen <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ted is much better at reducing a Yankee accent to the written word than I am.
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Hotzmann: Mis-tuh Jackson, what does the bwue stand for? Hank replied,
Wod-duh. He trotted down the quad, waving his ram slips, all the way. Ted
On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:50 AM, dttorgerson77 (Redacted sender "dttorgerson77" for
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There were several of us in Lt Holzzman's class spring semester our pisshead
year. I think Bill, Ted, Hank Jackson, Les Abernathy, etc. were some in the
class, at one point teaching us map reading. Toward the end of one class in
map reading, she asked us "what color is the water?" (in her Yankee accent)
Without practice, without prompting, we all said "blue" trying to mimic her
Yankee accent. The next class, she did not come in, Cpt. Orr or another
captain came in and instructed us in the proper way to treat an office - we
were doing pushups for quite a while.
Doesn't anyone else remember this? Many of us decided to go D&C because of
the Lt.
Killer
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Subject: [fighting_texas_aggie_band_class_of_1977] Re: Female AFROTC instructor
I was D&C but Holtzman was the only female bull that year, as I remember. She
was disliked by many, both cadet and cadre. Her smart-ass Yankee mouth and
accent didn't exactly endear her to us Texican boys..... I believe she was on
staff on pisshead year also, I seem to remember having her for a few classes in
the Trigon.
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I agree with Ted. LT Holtzman was the only female bull. She tried so hard to be
a ballbuster and failed miserably. I think the Aggie bulls weren’t particularly
enamored with her but the non Aggie ones treated her decently. Rumor was CPT
Webber our Army advisor was nailing her. I never believed it until our butt
year when Brian Green got me a job as a projectionist/cashier at the Sun
Theater and they walked in together to watch the groad flicks. I kept my eyes
straight ahead and didn’t act like I knew them or make eye contact but I know
he knew I recognized them. Hell, I was getting ready for summer camp and spent
enough time in his office. Groad
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On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:14 AM, Patrick Pennington <AggieFNP@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Queso, Ruth Ann was a good friend who just wanted to be a good Aggie and
officer. I did and do respect her a lot, but her hubby, JB is a political
douche IMO. She obviously loves him so what can I say? Oh, it wasn’t me that
sent ya. Groad
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On Mar 15, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Robert Spiller <rspiller@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It was not me!
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Subject: [fighting_texas_aggie_band_class_of_1977] Re: Female AFROTC instructor
Ruth Ann was our same class year. Not a bull. Or a bull-ette!
I once had a dinner date with her spring 77 and someone... I wonder who, sent
me to the quad the next day. A Monday. Duncan was closed on Sunday nights. We
had to eat off campus. My only quadding.
Anyone in this group gonna fess up?
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On Mar 15, 2021 22:11, Stephen Wright <dr.wilbur.wright@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Only one I knew was Ruth Ann Schumacher but I think she went Army.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:05 PM Michael Brown <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hey, Dr. COL Wright, or other Air Force guys.
Do any of you recall a female officer in the ROTC detachment during our years
there?
Having an online discussion with a guy who claims his mom was one, in the first
year women were in the Corps, so 1974-1975. Says the male officers treated her
like crap, and some cadets refused to salute.
Sounds like a fairy tale to me, I was D&C, but would have been taken ROTC in
pisshead year, and I don't recall a female. You'd think one would be rare
enough to register on me.
A scan of the Aggielands online also fails to show any female officers in any
branch.
Dean
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Dr Steve "Wilbur" Wright
