Thanks, David.
It is disheartening to view things with a Modern Lens: Sul Ross, The Texas
Rangers, The Alamo/San Jac (the San Fran schools voted to abadon the name
"Alamo" because of Colonization & Brutality), The Civil War "heroes" once to be
admired... I'll ask, half-in-jest, "Will there be any white guys remaining to
be admired?"
Murphy/Keith
P.S. Ed, don't knock Cahokia (they can't help it the didn't have stone to work
with. ;-)
On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 12:55:48 PM CST, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I never mentioned anything about any specific book, much less a book titled,
Empire. I also don't know anything about the indigenous tribes of the current
US territory. I only know a little about the indigenous tribes of meso America.
Edward Retta
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On Feb 18, 2021 12:32, David Townsley <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is not David. :-)
Re: that Empire book...The author admits he only used written records to
document his basis for the book.1. Imagine if you will a history of Jews in
Germany written by Nazis and taken as absolutely the truth in a country where
the Nazis won. These are equivalent to the documents he used proudly to base
his book.2. The colonizer lens through which the author writes is very narrow
and flawed. He assumes much in the wrong direction.3. Take it as a
fictionalization and not 100% correct. If you enjoyed it, I’m glad you had a
nice break from reality.4. He immediately states in all interviews that
Comanche were in survival mode and therefore had no art or anything else that
made them non-savage. That’s a big miss in his assumption. 5. He discounted
oral history that is constantly being “discovered” as being true. (See Texas
Monthly article 12/15/20 about Pease River) this is always how I heard it.
Sorry if it bothers the Aggie hearts to hear it this way.6. Yes, it was war and
it was brutal. I have at the 3xgreat ancestors that killed each others
relatives. My gggrandmother rode against Texas Rangers with her husband. My
ancestors were pretty much the reason the rangers were created.
I’ll stop there.
Signed,Roberta Helen Hawana Huwuni Townsley Shoshone stock, Comanche Nation,
Nokoni* Band that was renamed Kwahari Band, great granddaughter of Quanah
Parker and wife Weckeah and Edward L. Clark(aka Nocktooah Comanche adoptee and
signature 31 on the 1892 Jerome Agreement) and Womaconi. Womaconi is the
daughter of Moxie that was at Adobe Walls and backed his horse into the door
trying to break it down.
*tradition held that you do not speak someone’s name after their death.
David Townsley
On Feb 18, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dean, You are definitely welcomed on our first post covid pandemic,
professional guided tour of Mexico City. Like I said, Jeff and Dwight can tell
us all about it.
You may see the highlights of ancient civilizations, Aztec & pre Aztec, walk
thru real archeological digs, climb the pyramids yourself (optional) and walk
through the ruins of the Aztec high temple, and see that stone where they tore
out human hearts. Plus lots of other fun, contemporary stuff. Including my
favorite restaurants.
It's a 4 day weekend, Friday thru Monday, so working folks and students only
miss 2 days...for about $1500 bucks US.
We may certainly do an all BQ buds tour! Need a minimum of 14 people.
I have also toured those indian mounds just outside of St. Louis, MO. There is
no comparison, those are just big piles of dirt.
Edward Retta
On Feb 18, 2021 08:07, Michael Brown <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I definitely don't buy the "noble savage" myth. They were humans, capable of
as much evil and environmental destruction as their European (Asian, African)
cousins.
I still would love to have seen the cities, villages, irrigation projects,
pyramids, and mound building that obviously was going on in pre-Columbian
America.
On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 11:17:47 PM CST, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dean, that "height" of Indian civilization in those years included massive
scale human sacrifice in Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital. Some estimates as
high as 80,000 per year. Beating human hearts were extracted from conquered
tribes' members. I have seen the sacrificial stones with my own eyes. So did
our buds Jeff Davis and Dwight Henneberger on our first tour of Mexico City in
2019.
Sure the Aztecs were great engineers and architects, but also the Nazis of the
Americas in 1490s.
Edward Retta
On Feb 17, 2021 21:40, Dean B <canyonag77@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I never had much opinion on "Hamiliton" one way or another, but the concept of
intentionally putting minorities into historical roles that weren't minority,
just seemed like they were trying too hard to be "woke". And I'd forgotten
that nonsense of the cast of high school dropouts, lecture the VPOTUS from the
stage. Shut up and sing, no one bought a ticket to hear your mindless ranting.
If we're on the subject of our misspent youth in front of the TV, my vote is
for "12 O'clock High", where they ran the same WWII gun camera film of the same
planes being shot down every week. Then the later, silly ones, like "McHale's
Navy", and "Hogan's Heroes", the latter where the Germans were all played by
Jews (intentionally).
I'll echo the call to read "1491", I found it fascinating. If God allows you
to watch his old home movies when you pass, I want to see what this country
looked like before the first humans showed up, and what it looked like in 1491
at the height of Indian civilization.
And "Empire of the Summer Moon" is a pretty good read on the generational war
between Europeans and Comanches between about 1836 and the founding year of
A&M, 1876.
