FRTM - Debate SUPPORT From Lori High

  • From: "Lori High" <lhightop2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <frtm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:40:07 -0700

I would like to express my SUPPORT of our Club participating in a debate.  

 

For the benefit of our many new members and those that may not have been
present during discussion or updates at a meeting please consider the info
below/attached. 

I personally wish there has been more discussion in the Club regarding the
process & benefits?     I support participation in a Debate and I would
elect the CON (negative)side? though I think the choice should have been a
draw of the straw VS having the choice to select your preference?.   As
Kathy mentions dates are critical at this point? according to the guidelines
attached?   if we go forward!

 

Having Inter Club Debates IS a Toastmaster Classic!  They are commonly done
for the Enrichment of the Club?by virtue of individuals participating in the
Roles and growing through the process.

Rest assured Toastmasters provides a special Manual that takes the
participants Step-by-Step through the preparation & delivery process.  Just
like working through your CC or CL Manuals, except in this case you are part
of a Debate Team?that is then supported BY THE CLUB.   You DO get CL Credit
for many of the roles that are needed for a Debate.

 

The attachment shows a brief list of the roles involved in a Debate.  *The
FULL Debate Manual IS available on the Toastmasters International Website? 

 

Our Front Range Toastmasters Club has participated in Debates (and many
other Special Meetings) in the past. I personally was a Debate Participant
and ? Initially I was scared, knees knocking and all!   I am of the opinion
that I joined this Club to grow, to do that I MUST face my fears and get
outside of my comfort zone.  I did just that! 

 

As the event all unfolded I was impressed with the process, the passion that
was demonstrated and the efforts expended to pull off such a GREAT DEBATE!
FRTM did in-fact win the event by following the guidelines to the T ?but I
was MORE AMAZED Just how much we each grew through the experience!   I was
ready to jump right back in and Do it ALL again!!  It was FUN!! We had many
visitors from other Clubs that night, though other than the Debate
Team/Support crew  few of our own FRTM Club Members attended as spectators.
Never the less, the room we meet in at the Civic Center was pretty FULL? the
PR coverage pulled in members from clubs across the entire Metro/Summit
area. 

 

I shared an inspiration last night that 84% of people have regrets for
things that they DON?T DO? vs 16% having regrets for things they have done?


Toastmasters? again I encourage you to plug into the Club, let your voice be
known!!  Some people may not care to participate in a Debate, that is OK?  I
believe there are many that will and they will  Proudly represent  FRTM.
Just like ?It Takes a Village?  This is a CLUB event! 

What is a Debate

A debate is a friendly, enjoyable and beneficial argument between two teams
- a stimulating battle of wits - which should entertain the audience.
A speakers matter, manner and method is important and they will be judged by
what they say, how effectively they say it and how well their speeches are
organized and inter-related.
A good speech is one which has excellent arguments and examples relevant to
the team case and rebutting the points put forward by the other side.
Each speech must be set out clearly and structured in an effective way in
order to advance their own case with rebuttal of the other side's case.
Each team has the task of proving that they are right and the other team
wrong.
This is what debating is all about and Toastmasters will find that by
participating in debating, their skills of thinking, listening and speaking
will be enhanced. 

The Benefits of Debating

Debating is an art which provides an outstanding opportunity to develop the
three basic abilities of the Toastmasters "Better Thinking, Listening and
Speaking" motto. 
In this regard debaters must listen to the opposing arguments, learn to
think very quickly, and express ideas in an attractive convincing manner
which, in part at least, forms the basis of an impromptu speech. 
Courtesy of: The Debaters Handbook by David E. Lloyd

 

Lori High, now stands down from her Soap Box?     

Thank you for your consideration!   Make an Informed decision?Please let
your voice be heard!  

 

 

From: frtm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:frtm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Kathy Barrett
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:04 AM
To: Barrett, Kathy
Subject: FRTM - FRTM Debate - Front Range Toastmasters vs Simply Speaking
Toastmasters / Thursday - February 9 @ 6:30 PM - Aurora

 

 

Happy Friday Front Range Toastmasters ? 

 

Simply Speaking Toastmasters Club challenged our Club to a Debate last
summer ? We accepted the challenge for the fall than we made a decision to
postpone and have the debate sometime after the new year started?

 

The Facts:

 

Topic ? 

That the US should adopt Europe 's 6 weeks per year vacation time,
regardless of job title or time on the job

 

Coin Toss ? 

Happened today ? FRTM Won ? We get to choose ? Affirmative or Negative

                

Date / Time / Place             

For the last couple of months our very recent past VP-Public Relations - Pat
Sanchez took on the task of talking to Tom Marrs the President of Simply
Speaking and they came up with a date, time and meeting place for this
Debate . . .

 

Thursday ? February 9, 2011

6:30 PM ? Debate begins ? You should plan to arrive by 6:00 PM ? they need
to be out by 8:45 PM

Simply Speaking?s Meeting Place 

 

 
<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?ftid=0x876c8828ceb370a1:0xe3fe919e39a91b3
1&q=2220+s+chambers+rd,+aurora+co+80014&hl=en&cad=src:ppiwlink&ei=_YHJTou8KY
mziQL-rPS9Ag&dtab=0> Colorado Community Church

2220 S Chambers Rd

Aurora, CO 80014

 

Mapquest miles and time from Front Range to Simply Speaking 

Ø  I-225 - 28 mins / 20.65 miles  

Ø  N Chambers Rd / 30 mins / 20.43 miles 

 

Since October, Pat Sanchez has given many updates to the Club about this
Debate and also behind the scenes to the Leadership Team . . .

First of all?Pat, I want to thank you for your commitment and time you have
spent with Simply Speaking in order to give our Club these Debate updates?it
is greatly appreciated?  : )

 

Nevertheless, each time Pat has updated us about this debate I see a very
strong continuous pattern happening?and with the exception of Dirk Kittredge
who volunteered to be a Debate Speaker?

The pattern I see is: NO Response . . .


No one is stepping up to the plate to participate in this Debate?which is
perfectly OK ? we have a lot of new Members and there has not been a debate
within our club for over a year or possibly two years?  

Honestly I do not know exactly when the last debate was because I did not
attend that meeting . . .

 

My question to You the Members of Front Range is very simple:

 

Are you interested in by-passing one of our regular meetings to have a
debate with the Toastmaster Club - Simply Speaking?  

 

If your answer is . . .

Ø Yes ? 

o   Please tell me which Role you are Volunteering to fulfill at the time
you respond ? See info beyond my e-mail signature

o   Please tell me if you want to be Affirmative or Negative

o   Your choices will be sent to Pat Sanchez

 

If your answer is . . .

Ø No ? I vote to have a Regular Club Meeting

o   This is perfectly OK . . .

 

If your answer is . . .

Ø Postpone ? For some time down the Road

o   This is perfectly OK as well . . .

 

Since Tom Marrs is requesting an answer today . . .
Please Reply to JUST ME with your answer by Noon time ?Friday ?  January 6 .
. . The Majority will Rule ?

 

Thank you . . .

 

Have a Happy Friday and an awesome weekend!  : )

 

Kath

Kathy Barrett ? CC, ACB, CL

President - Front Range Toastmasters

kathyrbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx

720-338-0279 - Cell

 

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If you are interested in the debate please continue reading . . .

There are many roles to be fulfilled by our Club . . .

Ø  Chief Judge (see explanation below) 

Ø  Timer

Ø  Vote Counter 

Ø  Refreshments Chair (see explanation below)

Ø  Debate Team (please see the Debate Team section below)

 

I am not sure which Club takes care of these roles ? perhaps both?

Ø  Toastmaster

Ø  Timer

Ø  Sergeant-At-Arms

Ø   Vote Counter

 

The e-mail below was sent yesterday to Pat Sanchez from Tom Marrs the
President of Simply Speaking . . .

They had the Coin Toss over the phone this morning . . .

 

From: Tom Marrs <thomasamarrs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Pat Sanchez <patosnz@xxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Moving Forward with The Debate

Pat,

I can cover most of the information in this email except for one thing: The
Coin Toss.

 

The Coin Toss - Choosing Sides

We need to toss a coin to choose which club will be presenting the
Affirmative

and which will be the Negative for the agreed-upon Debate Proposition
(Topic):

 

----

That the US should adopt Europe's 6 weeks per year vacation time.

----

 

I'll call you tomorrow morning on your cell phone so that we can do the coin
toss.

 

 

 

Debate Handbook

Please order the Debate Handbook
<http://webmail.rnldesign.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.toastmast
ers.org/MainMenuCategories/Shop/ManualsBooksVideosCDs_1/MANUALSBOOKSVIDEOSCD
s/GeneralEducationalItems/DEBATEHANDBOOK16.aspx>  from Toastmasters or get a
copy from Dirk. You and the Chief Judge will need this to plan for the
debate.  

 

 

Roles

Simply Speaking will have its members fill the following Roles:  Facilitator
(i.e., Toastmaster), Timer, Sergeant-at-Arms, Vote Counter, Refreshments
Chair, and Debate Team. I will recruit members from my club to fill these
roles. I will provide you with a list of our members who are filling each
Role along with their contact information.

 

Front Range will have its members fill the following Roles: Chief Judge (see
explanation below), Timer, Vote Counter, Refreshments Chair (see explanation
below), and Debate Team (please see the Debate Team section below). Please
recruit members from your club to fill these roles. Also, please provide me
with a list of your members who are filling each Role along with their
contact information.

 

The Chief Judge does NOT vote because they come from one of the two
competing clubs. The Chief Judge recruits the judges for the debate and
briefs them beforehand on how to judge the debate based on the contents of
the Debate Handbook
<http://webmail.rnldesign.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.toastmast
ers.org/MainMenuCategories/Shop/ManualsBooksVideosCDs_1/MANUALSBOOKSVIDEOSCD
s/GeneralEducationalItems/DEBATEHANDBOOK16.aspx>  from Toastmasters. We
should have an odd number of judges (preferably 3) to avoid a tie vote.
We'll also need 1-2 alternate judges in case one of the judges can't make
it. The Chief Judge will confirm with each potential judge the week
beforehand to make sure that all the judges can make it. This provides a
chance to get an alternate. This Sunday (January 8), I will send you a list
of potential judges along with their contact information. In the spirit of
fairness and integrity, the judges will come from District 26, and they
cannot be a current or former member of either club. 

 

The Refreshments Chair fills the same role they would fill at a typical
speech contest or other special event. They'll have a signup sheet and have
members sign up to bring chips, soda, appetizers, dessert, hot wings, etc.
As stated above, each club will provide a Refreshments Chair because both
clubs will bring refreshments (so we have enough).

 

The remaining roles (Toastmaster, Timer, Sergeant-At-Arms, Vote Counter) are
the same roles as in regular meetings and club contests.

 

 

 

Debate Team

Each club will have a debate team. Typically, this consists of 2 speakers,
1-2 alternate speakers, and 1-2 researchers. The Debate Team lead will be
one of the speakers, their role is to recruit the rest of the team and
coordinate the research and practices before the debate. Darryle Brown is
Simply Speaking's Debate Team Lead. Please choose a Debate Team Lead  for
your club.

  

Meeting Location and Time

I will provide this information to you on Sunday, January 8.

  

 

Thanks.

 

Tom

 

----

Tom Marrs, CC, ALB

President

Simply Speaking Toastmasters

District 26

 

thomasamarrs@xxxxxxxxxxx

303-547-5415

 

 

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