FRTM - Re: We made a great point tonight.

  • From: Krzysztof Walder <leaffoto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: frtm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:16:49 -0600

It's freedom of speech alright, just watch what you say! Or else, ICE-T may
bust your teeth.

This is actually ICE-T's own line that stuck with me from when I went to see
him speaking about his life.


Krzysztof



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:08 PM, James Klingensmith C.Ht. <
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> > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 23:42:43 -0600
> > Subject: FRTM - We made a terrible mistake tonight.
> > From: ubotdev@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: frtm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > Friends,
> >
> > I'm not normally one to engage in drama, so forgive me, but something
> > was said tonight that I feel needs to be addressed. It's something
> > potentially damaging to our group as Toastmasters, and I think its
> > important that, as Toastmasters, we should hold ourselves to a higher
> > level of accountability than was demonstrated tonight.
> >
> > I think that political rhetoric is entirely fair game, and that we
> > should all feel comfortable sharing our political beliefs, even if
> > said beliefs are controversial. However, I think there needs to be an
> > exception when it comes to discriminatory speech. We are surely
> > protected by the first amendment to say nearly anything we want about
> > anybody, but I think it is important to our club and to our status as
> > toastmasters that we never use hostility or discrimination in
> > approaching a people's race, culture, or religion.
> >
> > One of our speakers tonight made comments about Muslims that broadly
> > painted the entirety of their religion as one that promotes terrorism.
> > While I realize that the mainstream media has done a lot to make these
> > kinds of ideas popular, these ideas are not only wrong, they are
> > offensive and divisive.
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> > The world has a lot of Muslims in it, and the overwhelming majority of
> > them are peaceful people who just want to live their lives. Most of
> > them are not very different from ourselves, only having a few
> > different beliefs. Most of Islam does not condone committing violent
> > acts against other human beings. Violence is as much a sin in Islam as
> > it is in any other religion.
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> > Many Muslims are US citizens, who pay taxes and contribute to the
> > community the same as anyone else would. Many Muslims fight in our
> > military. In fact, a great deal more Muslims have fought and died
> > protecting our freedoms than the relatively few who have committed
> > terrorist acts against us.
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> > If we had a guest tonight who was of the Muslim faith, we could be
> > assured that he would not be returning. He would have felt isolated
> > and alone, and like we didn't accept him because of his religion. Is
> > that the kind of group we are? Is that how we should treat people?
> >
> > I don't diminish the horrible acts that the extremist few have
> > committed. But if we are to judge an entire people on the acts of the
> > extremist few, then no religion, race, country, or culture is
> > innocent. I hope that in the future we can work harder to be a group
> > that embraces mutual respect.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Chris Winstead
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