[haiku-bugs] Re: [Haiku] #9431: Stack & Tile overrides shortcuts used by applications
- From: "jscipione" <trac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:56:20 -0000
#9431: Stack & Tile overrides shortcuts used by applications
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Reporter: jscipione | Owner: axeld
Type: bug | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: R1
Component: Servers/app_server | Version: R1/Development
Resolution: | Keywords:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Has a Patch: 0 | Platform: All
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Comment (by jscipione):
> IMHO we can't simply try to find a shortcut that no old third-party
applications have ever used. Such a search is unbounded ("ah, look at this
HelloWorld app I just found from my old BeOS partition that uses
ctrl+alt+left to say Hi - we must again reassign the S&T shortcuts")
Suggesting that opt+arrows as a minor feature used by a one-off HelloWorld
app is disingenuous at best. Opt+arrows performing word-wise selection is
a common BeOS idiom used by text editors and word processors. These
shortcut are also used by Pe and Productive at least in addition to Eddie.
There are most likely more examples and future apps should have access to
use this idiom as well, it should not be sacrificed for a minor feature of
S&T. Simply put: these shortcuts are already taken by apps, we'll need to
choose others.
I thought my suggestion of using opt+tab and opt+shift+tab for previous
tab and next tab respectively was pretty good since similar idioms exist
elsewhere for example control+tab and control+shift+tab cycle between next
and previous applications. Opt+tab seems to already be used to cycle the
selection of some but not all controls, perhaps that can be reassigned.
Opt+tab is a logical alternative especially because tab == Window tab is
an easy connection to make. My suggestions of opt+pgup and opt+pgdn seem
to be also taken by Eddie as well as opt+home and opt+end so I'm not sure
what to do there.
> Fully configurable shortcut handling is something is waiting for R2.
I'm not interested in vaporware solutions. Perhaps this is a good idea for
R2 but in the meantime the shortcut needs to be changed to reverse the
current damage.
> PS: May be somebody can ask Pavel about open-sourcing the BeOS version?
I asked him if he would be interested in updating Eddie for Haiku and he
kindly replied that he is interested in Mac OS X now since that is what he
uses and he continues to update the OS X version. We already have a decent
open source text editor -- Pe. It simply needs to be updated to match
Eddie's features and fix it's bugs and irregularities.
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