Just to add ,
it is very easy to schedule ads and promos into Robot Jock , he is on every
day (except Friday) for an hour but its 6pm – 7pm .
I also believe there are ads scheduled for over night when robo is on ,
I can do this .
Nick .
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Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Fwd: Re: Ads.
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Just to confirm the situation with hospital radio. It is correct that the news
is auto scheduled and cuts in at a particular time fading out the track playing
and during the news the current remote broadcaster logs out so the new one can
log in.
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Subject: [Hastings Rock] Fwd: Re: Ads.
Just had an email system error say this wasn’t sent. So I sent it again 🙄😂
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From: Ralph <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 24 March 2021 at 20:46:36 GMT
To: Ralph <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: Ads.
Sorry Jon I did mean to emphasise the part that meant more work for you within
the short timescale we now have. 👍👍
R
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On 24 Mar 2021, at 20:43, Ralph <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ahhh ok So the only way this idea can happen without it causing interference
with dropouts is if it’s actually scheduled? So Robojock takes over/ cuts in
with the ad or promo then jingle scheduled on the hour, regardless of whether
the DJ has logged out or not. (I think that’s what hospital radio does with the
news)? So not waiting for the old DJ to log out before RoboJock cuts in.
Could this work? Without too much work on your side Jon?
Would this also not give the following DJ a set time to connect as opposed to
hoping the last DJ logged out bang on the time they should have?
If not then we will have to send out the ads to the jocks , I guess , as and
when we need them to play them out? Sorry if I’m sounding ignorant, it’s just
that I am 😂😂.
R
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On 24 Mar 2021, at 19:28, jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Yes this could work BUT... (there's always a but) there are some
complications and things to be aware of.
The way the changeover jingle is triggered is it is based on when the
DJ finishes their show and disconnects from the server (here).
There is a scripty thing running which detects that and instructs the
Playout system to:
- load in the changeover jingle
- drop into automation mode (that is it queues up a bunch of music to
air after the jingle plays)
- start playback
Likewise, the same script monitors for when the next DJ connects, it
cross fades out the jingle and stops the Playout system.
That then does exactly what is required. The rationale for the
automation mode is primarily to support robojock - if no one connects,
the jingle completes and the music starts. That music coming from
anything requested or the daytime/evening list if nothing has been.
Nice and simple, means I don't need to do anything special for whenever
we decide to have robojock running.
However it also serves a secondary purpose which is if a DJ drops out
(or even fails to connect at the start of their show), the behaviour is
the same. The jingle kicks in, and if this is a temporary blip the
likelihood is they will re-connect mid jingle (so same effect as TOH).
However if it's longer, then the music will kick in (daytime/evening
as appropriate) and will continue to run until someone reconnects - at
which point it nicely cross fades into the new programme.
That's very nice and simple and more importantly it's not governed by
time. So it's not automatically triggered on the hour or anything like
that which allows a degree of flexibility for people to start & end
their shows without being kicked off dead on the hour. It handles the
standard end/start of shows and also handles any problems along the way.
Now there is no problem in dropping in extra audio before the jingle,
that's easy enough to do. However if you think about it, the behaviour
you'll now get under those failure type conditions I alluded to
earlier, it's less than ideal. Suddenly you've got adverts dropping in
whenever a disconnect happens, even worse you've potentially got ads
being cut off mid flow when a reconnect happens shortly afterwards.
It's going to start sounding very unprofessional.
There's ways to (sort of) work around this. I could put in extra logic
to only include the adverts within a time threshold ie. around the hour
mark. That'll improve things immensely but still won't be 100% perfect,
you'd need to have a tolerance around this say 2 minutes either side of
the hour but if you get a disconnect then you'll have the same effect.
Again you can add further checks along the lines of "have I played the
ad this hour? If so don't do it again" but it's more
complication - where's the tolerances on that?
Likewise including programme promos in the same period, presumably we'd
want to vary these across the board? So additional logic is needed to
handle that as well and again we'd need to manage avoiding keep playing
those out if/when a disconnect crops up.
Anything (as they say) is possible and if people are really keen on
it then I'm sure we can come up with something. I do however quite like
what we have right now because it's a nice simple elegant solution that
has been proven to work.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:04:45 -0000
"Sarah Shirley" <sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
I think this is a good idea to schedule the ads between programmes
since it will make the whole process so much simpler to manage.
I also like the idea of programme promotions between shows, and in
particular, promoting the specialist shows. We have a lot of
specialist shows this year and the listener will appreciate when and
what they can hear from week to week.
Incidentally, are we going to do a gig guide? There won't be many
gigs happening, but there will be some.
Sarah
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From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Ralph (Redacted sender
"ralphwinser" for DMARC) Sent: 24 March 2021 12:06
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Ads.
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Hello peeps.
I am just thinking about where and how we are going to schedule the
adverts we have managed to collect this year. So far I am unsure as
to how many we have, would I be right in saying 3? Many years ago
when we used to have IRN at the program change over we would wait,
apprehensively, fingers poised , would it cut dead or would we have
to wait and listen to an advert before we could start our shows.
( remember that? Those were the days 😁😁). Any way I thought we
could possibly do something similar and schedule ( if there’s enough)
the ads at the program change. That way they would be played at the
same time by the central computer, none would be missed or forgotten.
I would suggest the ads lead and our new jingle ends. As there are
only a few ads hopefully there will only be one or two max at each
time If need be and to keep each time consistent ( as in say 2 mins
30 secs per time) we could make and use program promos to fill the
time. Anyway just a thought from me What are your thoughts?? R
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