I’ve had it for close to a week, the week I happened to not have any classes, which is why I haven’t gotten to use the GPS apps. I’ve used some apps more than others, but I’ve had a chance to use to lesser degrees a lot of other popular apps. For example, I use WhatsApp with one of my buddies, and I’ve had a lot of luck with that one. I think I’ve only had the app crash once. I use skype a lot because my apartment has awful reception. On the 4s, Skype had this crazy issue where the voice of the other person would slow down and sound fragmented and digital when I would use it to call mobile phones. On the 5s, over the course of a 30 minute call, I didn’t have that issue. when using the Apple ear buds, calls on the stock phone app sound a lot crisper than they do on the 4s. So far, News-line, Bard Mobile, Audible, the stock Podcasts App, and Netflix work the same or better than they did on the 4s, with the caveat that they load a heck of a lot faster. From: David Hilbert Poehlman Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:50 AM To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: 4s to 5s Upgrade Review from a Non-Apple Nut So, How long have you had it, How much real time have you spent using it? how long would you say you have spent on each app? The market bears scrutiny for sure but I'm mostly concerned about apple issues than anything else at least as far as this list goes. you've got the fastest chi[p on the planet there so even the iphone 5 will take a hit as a result. for the purposes of OCR, it needs to be throttled back by the engines and I've not yet attempted o c r with it. In terms of image recog, I've not tested enough to know but I can say we gat afaster return. On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: So, I upgraded my phone after a couple of weeks of deliberating. It came down to two phones: the iPhone 5s, and the Note 3. Obviously, since I’m writing here, we know which phone won. To be fair to the Note 3, one of the major factors was the cost. People criticize Apple for having supposedly overpriced phones, but after trading in my 4s, and getting my 5s on contract, I only paid $50 for my new iPhone, where as I would’ve spent close to $200 for the Note 3 after trade-in and contract. I relate that little story because I get a little annoyed with these news stories that point the finger at Apple for having costly phones, when in reality, as far as smartphones go, they’re really quite reasonable. There are some frustrating things about them, naturally. The fact you can’t use micro SD cards is still pretty ridiculous, as is this obnoxious adherence to the iTunes store and the so called closed garden approach. I’m not relating that to start an argument. I understand the business sense it makes, but I do think, in this case, business is not on the side of the consumer, or the power user who despises the handholding nature of iOS. I haven’t gotten to use the 5s extensively, so I don’t know if the new camera provides better OCR, bill recognition, or object recognition. I also haven’t checked the GPS features with BlindSquare or seeing Eye GPS, so I don’t know if the location services are more accurate. I have, however, used all the basic apps like Facebook, safari, mail, etc. I’m pleased to report that all the various bugs I noticed with the 4s were, by and large, solved just by getting the new phone. This phone is extremely zippy, loading apps ridiculously fast, and running VO very smoothly. With the 4s, VO would hang, apps would lag, and my phone would frequently freeze after upgrading to iOS 7. This isn’t to say the 5s is perfect. Sometimes, when swiping down with three fingers to pull down the notification center, the springboard will crash, throwing me back to the lock screen and restarting VO. This is particularly noteworthy as this is the first iOS update I’ve ever had since I’ve been using an iPhone that has featured crashes and major VO bugs. The same issues the 4s had with over sensitivity isn’t entirely solved. The virtual keyboard, for example, needs some fixing. I haven’t used my braille display with it, but I’ve heard reports of braille issues with friends who are braille nuts, so we can hope that’s around the bend soon. I know all of you have reported other hardware issues with the 5s, and thankfully, I haven’t had any of those. I got very lucky. I haven’t used Airdrop, but I love that it’s there. Between that and bump, people’s criticism of the iPhone lacking NFC is pretty silly. I’m sure there are several things NFC can do that Apple hasn’t figured a way around, but in real world use, people barely, if ever, use any of those wiz bang features of the Samsung phones. I did activate the fingerprint scanner for my right and left thumb. It sounds silly, as it’s the difference of only 10 seconds or so, but this feature is a time saver. When pressing the home button to activate the lock screen, just leave your finger there and the phone unlocks right away. For us who use VO, this also provides an added layer of security, as people can overhear your passcode as you type it in. I wish this feature could be used for more apps in place of a password, actually, so I can avoid the problem of VO shouting my PWs to the world when I’m not wearing my Bluetooth headset. If you are using a 4 or 4s, or an even older phone, I would encourage everyone to upgrade. I don’t know the differences between the 5 and 5s in terms of performance, but the difference between my 4s and my 5s is simply ridiculous. The extra row of apps, the vastly improved battery life, the faster loading times, and the fingerprint scanner make it an extremely worthwhile choice. -- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-On Technolog(eye)s touching the internet Reducing Technology's disabilities One Byte At a time