[mac4theblind] Re: It would be nice to have Alex on IOS devices. Does anyone know why Apple hasn't done this yet?
- From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:46:21 -0700
Yep. Just as I thought. the chimes program sounds good and I'm now trying to
use it. but at 7 mb big the voice of alex was recorded from there mac using
the iTunes workflow or the say command and converted to m4a speech which is
mono I think 32kbps. and the speech is not fast enough for me. I listen at
about 250 to 300 words per minute. I cannot listen any slower. it drives me
nuts. That's why I know the alex voices are not exactly fake but not integrated
in to the program. either.
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
> do you have anything to say about the other apps? I have no problems with
> voice brief.
> Please watch your language?
>
> there's another app I didn't include:
> voice reader
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-reader-text-to-speech/id422829104?mt=8
> I hope the list doesn't continue to go down hill.
>
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
> Oh voice brief. I've herd of that and the alex voice sucks. it is too slow
> and cannot be adjusted. and he mumbles too much.
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:48 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>
>> If you want to get an idea of what it is like to have lion voices or at
>> least some of them on your ios device, alex speaks for ann free app called
>> chime which can be found here:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chime/id414830146?mt=8
>> Here's one that was just released on march 10 and is free. I'm going to get
>> this one too as I have the others and more:
>> chimeo'clock
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chimeoclock/id497262531?mt=8
>> Voice brief
>> You'll have to pay for this but it is well worth it as is the next app in
>> the list. They both feature high quality large download voices which
>> essentially blows the alex download theory out of the water. It could be
>> done as these and some other apps demonstrate.
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-brief-text-to-speech/id423322440?mt=8
>> My favorite self voicing news app is Vocalyze
>> which self voices content. When you have this app, drop them a note and let
>> them know where you heard about it.
>> They also produce a similar free app:
>> voknow
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voknow/id414021672?mt=8
>> read2go
>> is a must have self voicing daisy reading app if you use bookshare and it
>> reads other daisy books as well.
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/read2go/id425585903?mt=8
>>
>> My last example is InDaisy
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/indaisy/id377597460?mt=8
>> This is a well crafted app which self voices daisy text and allows for
>> listening of audio daisy books.
>>
>> I'm sure you'll find more apps with built-in voices and maybe we should
>> start a compendium but when I saw the question, It put me in mind of all
>> these apps I've seen and have.
>>
>> Enjoy. I provide no endorsement, just info.
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>
>> Fair enough. I think it comes down to the individual user at the end of the
>> day.
>> I think it would be cool if there was a download feature where one can
>> download the voices they want to use. You know like what happened in Lion.
>> That way the user can decide yeah I want to fill up 500MB of my IOS device
>> for one voice or just use the ones that come by default on it.
>> Just my opinion. What do others think? Are you really not that boverd or do
>> you like the idea?
>> I'd be interested to know.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Daniel
>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:40, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>>
>>> That depends on what and how much you want to put on your device.
>>>
>>> A lot of apps and/or a lot of music can be put on an iphone or ipod with
>>> 300 to 500 megabites of space.
>>>
>>> So, as much as I like Alex, I'm quite happy with some of the other voices
>>> such as Australian and British English.
>>>
>>> Marcy
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>
>>> There is enough space on the i devices that 300 to 500 mb lost would not
>>> matter.
>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:05 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Justine, when you say negligible, are you basically saying that it
>>>> won't be worth Alex being put on IOS even though the storage goes up to
>>>> 64GB.
>>>> I understood your post apart from that word "negligible" I look it up but
>>>> am still none the wiser. Could you explain what you mean in context. I
>>>> think I know what you mean but want to make sure.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Daniel
>>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 02:16, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes they do. the iphone 4 8 gig is 99 dollars.. I can't remember how much
>>>>> the 8 gig 3gs is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Justin Harford <blindstein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do they still sell 8 g devices? Seriously?
>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not for the 8 gig devices. The os takes about 1 or 2 gigs so now you
>>>>>>> have 6 gigs to work with and wiht apps and music on it you will not
>>>>>>> have any room for alex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Justin Harford <blindstein@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah I don't know about the processor, but I think an extra 200 mb
>>>>>>>> would be pretty negligible considering the amount of storage available
>>>>>>>> in i devices today.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I had the choice. I'd ditch the other voices in exchange for
>>>>>>>>> having Alex on my iphone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:10 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've got some apps with hardwired alex audio in them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Christohper-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think it has to do with the processor, and the fact that the Alex
>>>>>>>>>> voice is absolutely huge!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having said that though, if they could fit all the other voices,
>>>>>>>>>> then I agree, why couldn't they fit Alex. I see why they didn't do
>>>>>>>>>> it, although I agree their reasoning isn't very logical.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McGee"
>>>>>>>>>> <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] It would be nice to have Alex on IOS
>>>>>>>>>> devices. Does anyone know why Apple hasn't done this yet?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, subject line says it all. Wouldn't mind this in the future
>>>>>>>>>> but just thought I throw it out there why we don't have him on any
>>>>>>>>>> of Apple's IOS devices.
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone come up with a logical reason because I can't. LOL
>>>>>>>>>> So with that I'll open up the floor to you guys and listen and learn
>>>>>>>>>> from your comments!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
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