Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinions and I welcome those opinions here. Unfortunately, though, I don't agree with many of the things you state for a variety of fairly obvious reasons. I really think you missed the mark and are not seeing the big picture, or have left out some important counter points. First of all, Apple is a business. As someone who ran a vendor business for 16 years and has now been running a training and support business for 2, I understand that a company's bottom line is their bottom line. You are in business to make money. Plain and simple. If you run a business, you understand this. If you don't, your unfortunate and misguided notion is that we are greedy for wanting to make money. There are plenty of people on this very list who can tell you that I never charge them for answers to questions and I give out free information and even training sessions. However, I am trying to make a living off of this, and I feel that my time is worth money and that my rates are surely pretty good compared to what else is out there. When the day is done, I have to feed myself and pay my rent. Now, with Apple, let's take this a step further. Apple makes nothing on software. You leave out the fact that they only charge $20 for an entire upgrade to their OS while Microsoft charges several times more, and most people don't even know what version of Windows there supposed to have. Apple charges $45 for their office suite in total if you buy all 3 applications. What does MS charge for Office these days, and for the professional version to boot? Anyone who has been in the Apple world for more than a few years knows that Apple has always made their money on the hardware and accessories end of the market. That is where their profits come from. You pay for that by choice, and you get the quality you expect. I'd pay the money I spent on my Mac Book Pro with the SSD memory any day of the week over a Dell or Fujitsu or any other laptop that could match my specs. I paid more, I know, but i got an Apple product and a far superior OS with a free screen reader that gives me equal access to the things I need to get done as a sighted person can do. Now, your notion in that iCloud should be free is even more off the mark. Why shouldn't Apple charge for it? And, you mention what Google and others give for free, but what do they charge for additional space? It is all the same in the end. Just because you buy an iPhone or an iPad or a Mac, that does not presume that Apple should give you free storage on their servers. So go out and buy an external drive if you are so dead set against using the cloud or paying for storage. You rent a basement apartment to somebody, but are you going to provide them with additional closet space or give them all their utilities for free? Let's be realistic here. And, you left out the part about all the other features that you get for the FREE iCloud service outside of the 5 GB storage. You also miss the point of iTunes match. It has little to do with the fact that you can get items with large capacity drives. I have a 16 GB iPhone and 32 GB iPad, but I pay for the service. My iTunes library, btw, couldn't fit on a 64 GB device anyway. Additionally, the iTunes Match service also allows you to download high quality versions of the songs in your library. So, for example, I had about 500 MP3 tracks of not so good quality in my library. I paid $24.99 for the Match service and replaced all 500 songs. So, do the math at, let's say, what would cost me a dollar of song to have normally purchased through the iTunes store. I think I made my money back for the next 20 years..... Lastly, let us not forget about the basic fact that Apple does not charge for VoiceOver, and with iDevices, they have not charged for any upgrade. Also, as an iDevice user, you can be pretty confident that your device will be able to run the latest software for a much longer length of time than an Android user will be able to run their latest software. Talk about greed. Look at what the Android hand set makers do to people and come back to me. They scam and lie to people right in the Verizon and AT&T stores, but no one is all over the media about how they got sucked into buying an Android device that they were told was "exactly like the iPhone" only to find out that, well ... it is not exactly like an iPhone and, by the way, you'll need a newer phone to run Jelly Bean 4.1 on it even though that was the "latest and greatest". I have a very good friend who just learned this hard lesson and, sadly for him, he got sucked into buying 4 phones for his family and a 2 year contract as well. He is already thinking about taking the hit and buying an iPhone 5 next month. Overall, though, if you feel Apple is greedy, so be it. As I said, you are entitled to your opinions. I wanted to point out my perspective, but that does not imply or infer that my opinion is any more valid than yours or anyone else's. Just consider the entire big picture and the other factors that are at work before you make those opinions public and open yourself to opposing opinions. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:34 AM, "Kliphton" <kliphton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I wrote a blog post about apple being greedy. You can find it at > Kliphskorner.wordpress.com > Charging for everything, when most of it is in house. > > From: > mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of John Panarese > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:43 AM > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: No, You're Not Getting 25GB Free iCloud Storage > Until 2050 > > I didn't even notice this until I read the article form yesterday. I > don't even use a GB so far, so not a big deal to me. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > Twitter, @macfortheblind > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > On Oct 1, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Looks like it was a glitch on apple's part. Oops? > > http://gizmodo.com/5947811/no-youre-not-getting-25gb-free-cloud-storage-until-2050 > > > >