Thanks, this WILL come in handy when I work with safari. On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:48 PM, John Panarese wrote: > If that command is not working, try the VO Window chooser. It should > work, unless there is no other windows open. As an experiment, open Safari > and open a couple of web pages. Then, try the command-accent key combination. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.macfortheblind.com > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, "Julio C. Perez" <jcperez11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> The command-accent (key left of #1 in keyboard number row) does nothing on >> my system. I am using Lion. I also have a numeric keypad (wireless >> external). I find this tremendously helpful since I don't need to try and >> execute those VO multi-key commands that make me wish I had six fingers on >> one hand. >> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> You can also try command along with the grav key. This will move you from >>> window to window within an application. At least it does in Snowleopard. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:30 PM, George B wrote: >>> >>>> good job david i am not on my mac and could not remember that command >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:27 >>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! >>>>> >>>>> try vo-f2 twice to bring up a list of open windows. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Julio C. Perez wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, when I press command-tab twice, it doesn't bring me to the >>>>> previously open help topic I left. It only switches me to the other >>>>> application windows or brings me back to the same VO utilities window. >>>>> If I go to the menu and arrow down the windows options, I only see one >>>>> applications window available to choose from. Is one of those other >>>>> options on that windows drop-down the one I need to take me back to the >>>>> topic I left? How does one switch to different windows within an >>>>> application window? >>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> try command-tab twice. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:47 AM, George B wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all command tab changes your application from one to another >>>>> not >>>>>> windows within a application. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:44 >>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, here is an example.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am currently in a help window that has . here is an even better >>>>>>> example of not having a clue of something that should be (and needs >>>>> to >>>>>>> be) understood by a neophyte. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I am writing this message, I switch to another window where I'm >>>>>>> working with a help topic. I switch back to this window to write >>>>>>> something and when I use the "command-tab" hoping to return to the >>>>> help >>>>>>> window. I end up back in the VoiceOver utilities area. Not the help >>>>>>> topic I thought I would be going to. How do I make this simple >>>>> switch >>>>>>> from one window to another without having to navigate back to the >>>>> topic >>>>>>> layer after linked layer? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the sort of thing that I never had to think about before. >>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can you give us an example? I believe I know what you need to do >>>>> but >>>>>>> rather than searching through help for an item, it would speed up >>>>> the >>>>>>> process having an example. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Julio C. Perez wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems like the more I think I've learned, the more I know I've >>>>>>> missed! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now I'm going through the VoiceOver help menu seeking areas >>>>> I'm >>>>>>> weak on and hoping to learn more. When I get to a "show" clickable >>>>>>> object, I select it. and nothing seems to happen except that it >>>>> changes >>>>>>> from a "show" to a "hide" area. Where does the related information >>>>> get >>>>>>> shown? What part of this process am I not getting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can freely admit that navigation and safari navigation in >>>>>>> particular are my weakest areas. This makes learning via the >>>>> provided >>>>>>> help topics slow. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for >>>>> transplanted >>>>>>> windows/internet explorer/JAWS users? 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