At 09:14 AM 2/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Just to qualify the word "our", I meant "our" as in my python and my >friend's. They're both rideable, but as we got a renewed hit of winter, any >high speed data will have to wait for a while yet. I don't think your app >went far enough to accommodate the length of our python's. The newer, metric version has a wheelbase range of 100-150cm, correspondingly in the Imperial version. Since almost anything is ridable with practice and attention, the idea is to use the self-stable model as an indication of what is more easily ridable and safe at speed. I was reading http://ruina.tam.cornell.edu/research/topics/bicycle_mechanics/papers/bicycle_steering.pdf yesterday, and skimming down toward the end there is some useful discussion of response and oscillation frequencies; some which would be catastrophic on a free-rolling bike are easily damped by hands/legs of a rider, others not. Ray ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Juergen Mages jmages@xxxxxx ============================================================