[python] Traction / stability - sliding / falling on gravel

  • From: Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Python <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:22:01 -0800 (PST)

Hi All,

As preparation for a FWD tadpole, we did some traction/stability study on 
gravel, comparing FWD bike, FWD delta trike, and FWD quad.  YouTube videos are 
up for group observations.

Guinea Pig bike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEsGiGk6Yhg

The longer wheelbase giving more traction (~60%) to front wheel seems to help 
with slipper surface (gravel), compared to short wheelbase. Lower seat height 
also eases the fall.  The low pivot angle (46deg) is suspect for sudden lost of 
control that also seems to depend on the pedal position at the moment of 
traction loss.  Rear wheel slide seems to trigger front wheel flop also...

Flintstones trike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyrIZR9qZ-w

This turns out to be blast to ride on slippery surface.  There is some swirling 
at the front but Low COG and wide track feel somewhat stable/reassuring, and 
fun...  Forgot to do high speed test :)

Bango quad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlVgoLueb0

Very stable during traction loss, almost boring compared to the trike.  Will 
try higher speed next time...

Some more observations on steering dynamics, as we found early on that the 
vehicle can be turned mostly by the outer wheel.  The inner wheel only requires 
a smaller angle to minimize tire scrub, versus a larger turning angle suggested 
by the Ackerman geometry.  This behavior may be explained by the pivot rise 
effect counteracting the weight shifting outward (outer pivot needs to be 
higher).  Tire scrub is pleasant lessened on slippery surface...


Cheers,

Vi

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