Hi Mike,
That's why I want to do my own podcast on the Pi in general. It could
be more comprehensive, and I could give credit where credit is due. I
think they had time constraints (as we had other topics to cover), but
it at least generated some information and buzz about the Pi being
usable as a low-cost computer especially in the education segment.
I hope my prior message did not sound too hostile in that regard. I
was typing on an iPhone (which I hate doing), as I figured you deserve
an answer of sorts while I finish doing my laundry. Now I'm on a
desktop once more so can type out actual concise thoughts.
Our viewpoints don't conflict. I agree with you that Linux is not
accessible unless you have access with speech to a console (Orca to me
does not count as a console reader either because you need a GUI to
get it up). At the same time, I really want to distill this notion
that Linux has to be a scarry operating system which is only usable
with a command-line and scarry config files. While I personally enjoy
that aspect of Linux, with a more powerful Pi, the question of how
many of it's audiance will feel the same comes into play. Sure, you
can't edit your audio or photos on the Pi 2, but at least using it in
a coffee shop (which I've done) or as a cheap netbook, it's doable.
With that said, don't worry about a specific deadline. I'm trying to
see if maybe I could do it in parts (Part 1 might be the installing of
the Pi / SD image), so that gives everyone more time in less absolute
values. I'll see if I can get anyone else on board who could collab
about this as far as code. I have an understanding of what you're
trying to accomplish, and I might have a vague idea on how, but I'm
not going to take credit for coding it when in reality I only know
basic-level C++ / C programming (nothing beyond writing my own
calculator or guess the number game.)
I'm trying to find a good tool that can image PI SD cards under
Windows. I use flashnul myself, but again, introducing people to a
command-line flashing tool in a podcast would also be a bit course.
<sigh> I'll go through the archives, I know we've had a discussion
about flashing tools under Windows before.
Cheers,
Tomi
On 4/4/15, Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Tomi,===========================================================
Yep, I guess you're not really responsible for the show-notes from that
podcast. Actually looking at the show-notes, whoever wrote them doesn't
give any nods to anybody. So I guess their show-notes are a bit like
that anyway.
I think you're right in saying that the Pi2 should go OK with a desktop
now, with a quad-core and a GB of RAM.
I've currently got a lot to do but I will try to take another look at
the sd_espeak source this coming week.
If I can get something started I will be only too pleased to let you
take a look at it and will write you some notes.
Mike
On 04/04/2015 19:01, Tomi wrote:
Hi Mike,
I haven't heard the full podcast yet, although I thought I at least
mentioned the list at least in passing. I do however write for the site in
general, and will most likely record a demo of the raspberry pi next week.
Setting it up, configuring it. Unfortunately, I have been on the fence
with doing this. To me, a device is not accessible unless it has a
graphical user interface working. And it might turn people off from using
the raspberry pi if they knew that only the console worked. Of Course, in
such a podcast, I could mention specific historical facts and
contributors. Now that the second-generation is out, I truly believe it
could be used as an all-purpose device.
I want to get in touch with the developer of speech dispatcher because I
do not know much about the C programming language. I'm more of a python
person.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 4, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:===========================================================
Hello Tomi,
You actually said weeks on the podcast.
I have thought about writing a speech-dispatcher module and was going to
get round to it at some time. I don't know why you need to speak to the
original developers. The source of all of the modules is there to look
at.
The espeak module (sd_espeak) already uses espeak in the 'callback' mode
where the PCM is returned to the calling process. So making it use MY
OMX library would be relatively simple. Although there would need to be
a lot of stripping out of code.
I also intend to fork espeak itself to make it use my library. Doing
that would remove the need for piespeakup, we could go back to espeakup,
and it would fix emacspeak as well.
I'm disappointed the show notes for that podcast and the audio didn't
mention this list or give more specific credit for the work which has
already been done. I acknowledge that we are all in this together and
there has been input from a lot of directions and folks on here, but it
was me sweating over the OMX library code for months on end.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say once again that I do not
consider any Linux computer with no speech in the console to be truly
accessible.
Mike
On 04/04/2015 18:14, Tomi wrote:
Honestly, I am quite unsure as to an exact timeframe. But saying
something like "2 to 4 months "sounds terrible. I am attempting to get
in touch with the developers of speech dispatcher. In theory, rewriting
the espeak module would not be difficult, if I have that help. Since
it's mostly the espeak module that needs to be re written.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 4, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:===========================================================
Hello list,
http://traffic.libsyn.com/coolblindtech/is_the_Apple_Watch_and_Raspberry_Pie_For_You.mp3
Who're the "we" Tomi? And where did you get 2 to 4 weeks? Is there
something you aren't sharing?
Mike
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