[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Help Visually Formatting a Lead Sheet

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:27:20 -0800

Hello Dani,

No, if you are changing the key at the end of the "C" section, you'll need 
to write out the entire "B" section in the new key and not bother with any 
repeats after the "C" section.

And you do not need the start repeat bar at the beginning of the "A" section 
if it begins at the first bar of the song. That repeat bar is never needed 
because it is implied. just the end repeat bar at the end of your "B" 
section is all that is needed. You will find that Sibelius will also 
understand this when you let it play your score.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

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Hi, Dave.
Yes re looking through the Tips and Tricks folder for lyrics help. I'm
working through the Entering Lyrics tutorial, and also need to search
the archives for whether chords can be entered using a text file.

So just to clarify, or maybe confuse the picture a little more ...
I would put a begin repeat bar at the start of my A section and an end
repeat bar at the end of the B section to have the reader go back To A
and work through B after the first B section gets played.

For the bridge/C and repeat of B in a new key, is it a matter of write
the bridge and modulated B at the end of the B section after the end
repeat bar line?

Thanks,
Dani



On 12/13/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dani,
>
> Yes, there are both begin and end repeat bars. They are in the create bars
> menu. Be sure to be on the first element in a bar for setting the begin
> repeat bar, and on the last element of a bar to insert the end repeat. Now
> if you do repeat from the very end of the song to the very beginning, the
> begin repeat bar is not necessary -- it is implied because the reader 
> knows
>
> that there is no begin repeat bar anywhere, so it has to mean to go to the
> beginning of the song. Another way to send the reader from the end of the
> song to the beginning is the D.C. al fine construction placed above the 
> last
>
> bar (or whatever bar you choose to use) and the reader knows that D.C. 
> means
>
> to go back to the beginning of the song (D.C.  means "Dal Capo", which is, 
> I
>
> think to the head). But for that construction to be meaningful you also 
> need
>
> the word "fine" somewhere else in the song to tell the reader where to
> completely stop playing.
>
> This is very useful to condense a typical A-A-B-A construction. You would
> write out the "A" part, with an end repeat bar at the end of the last bar 
> of
>
> the "A" section. This tells the reader to play that "A" part twice. Then
> they continue past that last bar on the second go-around into the "B" part
> that you wrote. At the end of that "B" part you would put the D.C. al fine
> instruction. The reader then jumps back to the beginning of the "A" 
> section.
>
> You will also have written a "Fine"  instruction above the last bar of 
> that
>
> same "A" section to tell the reader that after they went back to the
> beginning, they would stop there without repeating again. So you could
> conceivably write a 32-bar AABA song in just 16 bars. Lead sheets and fake
> books do this all the time to save space.
>
> As to lyrics, it takes a bit of fiddling to get the words to line up right
> with the notes, using the spacebar to insert the dashes when necessary.
> There are line commands for lyrics to allow you to write up to 4 lines of
> lyrics to your music. Look in the lines dialog, I think for this.
>
> Have you looked at any of the tips and tricks files that discuss writing
> lyrics, for additional help?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dani Pagador" <axs.brl@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "sib-access" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:22 AM
> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] Help Visually Formatting a Lead Sheet
>
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> I'm writing up a lead sheet that has an ABABCB format and 197 measures
> altogether. Here are my questions.
> 1. How do I condense things so the visual reader knows to go back to
> the beginning of the first A section after the chorus? Would it be a
> matter of a forward repeat barline at the beginning and a backward
> repeat barline after the first chorus? (I'm not sure if print notation
> has forward and backward repeat barlines, or if that's just a braille
> music convention.)
> 2. How would I write the lyrics out? I know the general how-tos for
> writing lyrics, but don't know how to apply things when there's more
> than one verse.
> Hoping someone can shed some light on this.
> Thanks,
> Dani
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