Dean Edwards' observation of an Cooper's Hawk flying off with the Upland Sandpiper fits the formula. Thanks for that contribution, Dean. Ralph S. Palmer wrote in the "The Shorebirds of North America" that the Upland Sandpiper weighs 6-7 ounces. No doubt someone else has better information. Robert Storer, at the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology at Ann Arbor in 1966, caculated that 12.8 % of the body weight for Cooper's males and 11.5 % of the body weight for females was the amount of weight the species could lift. That would be about 5-6 ounces if you used the weight for the Cooper's Hawk males and females as given by Paul Johnsgard in his book "Hawks, Eagles & Falcons of North America." To arrive at that you would have to convert grams to ounces. At least that is what I got if I got my math right. I ususally don't :-) Storer published his findings in an interesting article in THE AUK (83:423-436, July 1966) "Sexual Dimorphism and Food Habits in Three North American Accipiters." Storer caluclated the mean weight of 60 prey items for a male Cooper's Hawks to be 37.6 grams and for 90 prey items for a female to be 50.7 grams. Based on his caculations, that was 12.8 % of the body weight for males and 11.5 % of the body weight for females. Johnsgard cites J.B. Dunning: "Boidy weights of 686 species of North American birds" (Western Bird Bandingt Assoc., 1984), for the gram weight for male Cooper's as males 297-380 grams and females as 460-588 grams. Clark and Wheeler in 1987 listed males 302-402 grams and females 479- 678 grams. No one has given estimates for a Cooper's Hawk lifting a house cat and carrying it off. Maybe someone will come across a study on that :-) Let's go birding..... Wallace Coffey Bristol, TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net Owner: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx (423) 764-3958 =========================================================