I am passing this on from a bird of prey expert I know in Michigan. From: BirdsofPrey1@xxxxxxx Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:15:25 -0500 Subject: Re: FW: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN To: res_jackson@xxxxxxxxxxx Yes, it is most definitely a female juvenile cooper's hawk. A goshawk will have a wedge shaped tail where the outer tail feathers will be very noticeable shorter. The cooper's has a rounded off tail where the outer tail feathers are a tad shorter. Here is a site with a good picture of a goshawk where you can see what I am saying about the tail. http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/search2.cgi?species=Northern%20Goshawk Also to the size ratio to the pigeon will also say cooper's. Aimee In a message dated 11/15/2011 11:03:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, res_jackson@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Can you ID this hawk, Aimee? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:14:51 +0000 From: joshandkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN Nashville, TN Goshawk I have been reading this list for several years now, but this is my first post. I observed what I believe was an immature Goshawk catch a pigeon in flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the Titans football stadium. The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the construction site next to the pedestrian bridge. It then flew onto the construction fence, where it rested for a few minutes. It then made several short flights until it ended up next to an air vent at the bottom of the stadium where it began eating the pigeon alive. The pigeon continued to flap around and try to get away until his head was finally severed. I was able to take several pictures of the bird and will attach a couple for confirmation of the identity. Josh=