[TN-Bird] Re: Fw: Memphis CBC record high total
- From: James Brooks <comeback@xxxxxxxx>
- To: wpeeples@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:47:21 -0500
Have you noticed that the process of harmonizing North American and
British bird names only works as long as we accept the British name. I
don't know of any case where the Brits have given up one of their names
in favor of the North American version. In some cases AOU has flipped
back, so we are back to Black-bellied Plover from Gray Plover (excuse
me, old boy, that should have been Grey Plover). In all such cases where
there is no resolvable name I have gone to using the (in this case)
easier scientific names: Riparia riparia, Charadrius alexandrinus,
Circus cyanus, Gavia immer etc. It's the one place where we can agree,
and once one leaves the Americas, the Brits hold sway in the whole rest
of the world - Afro-Aus-Eurasia I think their continent is called.
James Brooks
Jonesborough, TN
William Peeples wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William Peeples" <wpeeples@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Harrington, Joseph" <jharring@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [TN-Bird] Memphis CBC record high total
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>>I figure you are right, re. the reason for name change of Oldsquaw to
>>Long-tailed Duck.
>>I have wondered, though, if the word "squaw" might not be considered
>>possibly offensive to some (?)
>>AOU still calls "Common Merganser" what the British call "Goosander"
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>(which
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>>I think is a neat name for a bird that's not common here).
>>But I'm glad we still use the word "loon"; "diver" just isn't as good a
>>name. And "Great Northern Diver" wouldn't make sense in North America,
>>where the Common Loon is the least northern of the 5 loon species.
>>And I hope we keep distinguishing jaegers from skuas and murres from
>>guillemots, unlike the British.
>>Rob Peeples
>>Germantown, TN
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Harrington, Joseph" <jharring@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <wpeeples@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:36 AM
>>Subject: RE: [TN-Bird] Memphis CBC record high total
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>>
>>Rob -
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>>Is the name change (from Oldsquaw to Long-tailed duck) really about PC?
>>I thought it was to harmonize N. American and European bird names (like
>>the change from sparrow-hawk to kestrel or marsh-hawk to harrier).
>>
>>Joe Harrington
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: William Peeples [mailto:wpeeples@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:49 AM
>>To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [TN-Bird] Memphis CBC record high total
>>
>>
>>19 Dec 2003
>> The species total for the Memphis Christmas Count, held last Sunday
>>the 14th, is now 104 species plus one count week, 3 higher than the
>>previous record for this 76 year old count.
>> Additions include an Oldsquaw (Long-tailed Duck for the politically
>>correct) at TVA Lake; Horned Grebes, Wild Turkeys and Bonaparte's Gulls
>>at President's Island; a Greater Yellowlegs, 2 Dunlins, 2 LeConte's
>>Sparrows and 20 Lapland Longspurs in the Ensley area. And a count week
>>Turkey Vulture.
>>Rob Peeples
>>Germantown, TN
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