Allie, You must first realize that all predators are opportunistic. Just like a hungry fisherman stands over a river full of spawning trout, so stand raptors over a yard full of songbirds. If you concentrate the prey, the predators will come. You see, feeding hawks is no different than feeding house finches, gold finches, sparrows, cardinals and blue-jays. If you attract one with a handout, the other will come as well. Now, how do you discourage hawks? I'm not sure. Everyone that feeds birds has the same problem. You have just been fortunate enough to observe the hawks. If you discourage one, you discourage the other. An age old dilema without much of an answer. Enjoy both, realizing that the songbirds have learned to adapt to birds of prey. They have defensive mechanisims, flight, camoflage, strength in numbers like schools of menhaiden being pursued by king mackrel. Some get eaten, some fall to other forms of natural mortality, and the rest survive until spring to reproduce. Sorry about the diatribe. Ken Hale Bristol, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allie Dreyer" <adreyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: [TN-Bird] How do you discourage hawks? > A hawk or two have started to occasionally patrol our yard and bird > feeders. This has discouraged (or worse) the regular birds visiting our > backyard. Are there any hawk discouragement remedies? > > Thanks > > Allie Dreyer > Murfreesboro TN > > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== > > The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with > first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. > ----------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------- > To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: > tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send email to: > tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society > Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) > endorse the views or opinions expressed > by the members of this discussion group. > > Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN > wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society > web site at http://www.tnbirds.org > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ======================================================== > > > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ========================================================