Ken- I would like to review the peer-reviewed literature you cited. I've looked into this in the past and haven't found much that was definitive, so would you please post the citations? Chris Sloan Nashville, TN http://www.chrissloanphotography.com On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bill Pulliam <littlezz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My thoughts on the conservation value would be... > > If documenting the presence of the bird in an area is valuable, then > breeding-season playback could be warranted. But, it would seem, as soon > as the bird responds and is documented, the playback should stop. No > drawing it in to get a visual (unless visual ID is necessary) or a better > photo. > > I wonder about wintertime pishing? Has that been studied? One could > argue that CBC data are valuable for conservation, and pishing/screech-owl > imitations are very widely used. How much harm might there be in a > once-a-year exposure to one intense bout of pishing and tooting, I wonder? > Might be hard to study, you might set up paired plots, pish one regularly > the other never, then do point counts without pishing regularly during the > study period. Would need a lot of replicates, but could be a good student > research project...? > > And along the ideas of conservation value, filtered higher-quality eBird > data (complete checklists covering small areas) are also being used for > large-scale "big picture" monitoring of birds at regional and continental > scales. So if one ^could^ argue that if consistent use of pishing as part > of collecting these data helps elucidate the spatial and temporal patterns > of distributions of species that might be harder to detect without it, > maybe it can be justified...? > > I don't pish in the nesting season, but I do in the winter. I am > judicious around my house, because the birds could be exposed daily, and it > seems that they also become resistant to the pishing as the winter wears on > if I do it too often -- "Oh, just the big hairy one again." Which, one > might wonder, could impair the legitimate mobbing behaviors in response to > a real threat? > > Lots of question marks. An interesting topic. > > Bill Pulliam > Hohenwald TN > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Mcdonald, Kenneth wrote: > > Hi, >> >> My name is Ken McDonald and I am a biologist with the USFWS in >> Cookeville. Usually, I'm the point of contact for calls regarding the >> Migratory Bird Treaty Act. >> >> While this shouldn't be construed as legal advice, I point out The >> Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 states it is "unlawful at any time, by >> any means or in any manner, to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill . . . [or >> transport] any migratory bird, any part, nest, or egg of any such bird" >> (16 U.S.C. 703). The only exception to this is when regulations authorize >> these activities for the purpose of conserving migratory bird trust >> resources. >> >> Some agencies interpret "take" to include harassment from pishing or >> playbacks because these activities can lead to bird mortality. For example, >> a bird responding to a playback may become more visible to predators, may >> inadvertently signal to predators the proximity of nests, or may abandon >> the nest, entirely if they believe the source of the pishing or playback >> poses as risk to themselves. Additionally, many agencies (such as the >> National Park Service and the Department of Defense) have even more >> stringent mandates and legal authorities to implement regulations even more >> protective of Migratory Birds than is found in the Migratory Bird Treaty >> Act. >> >> My own view is there is a great deal of peer-reviewed, published >> scientific literature which indicates phishing and playbacks can knock >> individuals off of territories, make birds vulnerable to predators, or >> cause birds to abandon nests. Given that pishing or playbacks can increase >> risk to birds, the question I ask is "Does interacting with a bird through >> the use of pishing or playbacks contribute to the conservation of the >> bird?" In my own birding experiences I refrain from doing anything that >> causes a bird to alter its behavior unless my doing so somehow contributes >> to the well-being of the bird. >> >> Ken >> >> > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== > > The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with > first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. > You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds > you report were seen. 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