Carol Reese Ornamental Horticulture Specialist -Western District University of Tennessee Extension Service 605 Airways Blvd. Jackson TN 38301 731 425 4721 email jreese5@xxxxxxx Sorry about that last gibberish message! The list wouldn't let me cut and paste my document out of Wordperfect. Dev, Thanks for letting me know about the research on cats as predators. I stand corrected. However, the quail studies did take into account predation on adult birds on the nest and on chicks. As for cats making serious inroads into natural food sources for hawks and owls, raptor species in general are on the rise, so this must not be a major robbery. Cats can be devastating when introduced into island countries like New Zealand that didn't already have similar native predators. No one likes to see species go extinct. I still contend that cats are filling a niche here in North America left barren by man's destruction of many mammalian predators. Is there a study that makes a case for cats beig a problem on any of our threatened North Amrican birds? The millions of birds(and other vertebrates) they kill each year are plentiful and natural prey for the most part. In an ideal world, we would have a balance of native predator/prey species. I my heart, I wish for that world, but society isn't going to allow it. My cats may indeed kill more birds thatn I know, but in typical cat fashion, they usually bring the victims to the front porch for me to admire. Ther is a mouse there this morning, hopefully the one that has been raidng the bird seed sacks!! Thank you for your courteous and articulate rebuttal. Best regards, Carol =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net Owner: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx (423) 764-3958 =========================================================