[TN-Bird] Re: dealing with a tail on a pig -- compairing eBird to TN-Bird
- From: "Ford, Robert" <robert_p_ford@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 12:26:38 -0400
haha - well said Wallace! On what to report . . ..for biologists and
others, I'll add that both lists are used for summarizing common and
"expected" species distribution and abundance, so please include the common
birds as well. eBird for example, is important in compiling distribution
shifts of some breeding birds and timing of migration just to name a
couple. And TN-Bird is used to help compile information for The Migrant,
which is still the primary source for long term documentation of what's
going on with birds in Tennessee. For example, TN-Bird is used for a
mention of occurrence in the Season report, or a place to provide details
in an note about the sighting and interesting behaviours, which may not
show up elsewhere. In my opinion, for eBird, when in doubt and when
possible, include your entire species list. As for Tn_Bird, Wallace
already said it well.
Bob Ford
Haywood County, TN
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:47 AM, BBC Net <jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> *Hi Jim,*
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> *I sense a bit of backdoor language to suggest that eBird is a a better or
> more modern or more effective way of reporting birds seen than using
> TN-Bird. That’s ok with me. *
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> *Most new members to a group like TN-Bird simply read along for a few days
> and it becomes obvious what birds are being reported to a list. None of us
> worry about cluttering up inboxes with our observations. You should not
> suffer guilt about that. *
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> *You would be surprised to learn how much TN-Birders know about the
> “benefits” of eBird. The “benefits” are not the same fpr all eBird users.
> eBird users are all over the world. *
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> *Comparing TN-Bird to eBird is a useless exercise. However, such a
> comparison is sort of like a tail on a pig. It doesn’t do much for the pig
> but it does make the pig look a little better. I suppose you can say I am
> sort of like the tail on a pig in this discussion **J*
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> *Both lists serve their own purposes in different ways to help different
> birders and ornithologists achieve different goals. Believe it or not,
> subscribers to both are not uncommon on TN-Birds. *
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> *Let’s go birding . . . .*
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> *Wallace Coffey*
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> *Tennessee Ornithological Society*
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> *TN-Bird Moderator*
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> *Bristol, TN *
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> *From:* tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jim Arnett (Redacted sender "jimboa68@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 3, 2014 9:46 AM
> *To:* terrywitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* tn-bird
> *Subject:* [TN-Bird] Re: e-bird users
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> As a new member of the group, I'm not sure what birds to report to
> TN-Bird. I've seen some early fall migrants lately but they're not
> considered "rare" or even "uncommon" so I haven't reported them. I hate to
> clutter up inboxes for observations that not many are interested in. So
> another benefit of eBird is that I can report my birds, and those who are
> interested in a specific area (county, "hotspot", etc.) can see them. I
> personally always check eBird before I go out to see what's been reported
> recently.
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> Again, I'm new to all this, and am trying to learn the best way to share
> information.
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> Jim Arnett
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> Nashville, TN
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> On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Terry Witt wrote:
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> I knew I would get some feedback
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> Yes, not all e-bird users are on Tn-bird, but why not??
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> The price of joining either site is the same - zero
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> Second point, I am not interested in having a target list on e-bird
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> I am interested in what is being seen, where, by whom, then I can decide
> whether it is something I might want to try and relocate
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> It is also helpful to see what is moving through the area
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> For targeted birding, NARBA might be a better choice
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> Just Sayin
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> Terry Witt
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> Murfreesboro Tennessee
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