Bill, TN Bird, I can certainly see that point of view. Having lived on the Gulf Coast for over 15 years,I had a lot of time to learn all the different things Fish Crows say (yes, the 2-syllable call is diagnostic, but they have lots of other sounds), and this recording sounded like Fish Crow to me. But if American Crows say similar things this time of year, then is it perhaps a more conservative approach to leave this one as "Crow sp." or American/Fish Crow? It is the right time of year for Fish Crows to be moving.... Best birding, Stefan Stefan Woltmann, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Dept. of Biology Austin Peay State University Clarksville, TN 37044 woltmanns@xxxxxxxx On Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:49 PM, Bill Pulliam <littlezz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have to disagree. I hear this call with some regularity this time of year, I believe it is an adult American Crow uttering a "begging" call as part of courtship behavior. The calls also sound too long and drawn out and not quite nasal enough for diagnostic Fish Crow utterances. This time of year I don't like counting it as a Fish Crow (in areas where they are not common) unless I clearly hear the two- syllable falling "Unh-uh" call. The paired calls in the recording just sound like two regular calls back-to-back, not really like a single two-syllable call. Bill Pulliam Hohenwald TN > From: "Stefan Woltmann" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted > sender "harpagus@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) > Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: American Crow?? > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:09:57 -0500 > > Hi Kristy, > That sounds like a Fish Crow to me, especially since it seems quite > early to have young American Crows around. > > Cheers, > > Stefan =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA -------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Chris O'Bryan Clemson, SC __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ MAP RESOURCES Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________